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To: SouthFloridaGuy who wrote (1490)10/24/2007 12:17:36 PM
From: John Vosilla of 1718
 
LIG the magnitude of the drops is based on neighborhood and property type.. Land constrained built out areas in FL mostly owner occupied not decimated by overbuilding and speculators are down similar to what you describe in the NY area..perhaps 15-25% at most. Worst hit overbuilt ground zero markets where the economy was too tied to housing are the ones off 50%+ with half the new homes sitting vacant without ability to even find a renter or end user buyers. Even in a place like Miami you would have to distinguish between the 100k+ new condos downtown versus the older tract homes in the suburbs. There were so many aspects to the housing bubble from the lax lending, to overvaluation, speculation, overbuilding, reset of PITI due to many factors. What we see is overbuilding and speculation as the biggest triggers to local crashes so far.. I guess this so because if you live in your house and have a job little has really changed other than ARM resets.

As to when we hit bottom it will vary dramatically by area. I don't trust the stats by NAR or the Shiller Index. Just on CNBC it was reported that the NY metro area has continued to 'appreciate'. Mark Haines immediately dismissed it as nonsense for any place outside of Manhattan. Lots of mining of data, median prices not that helpful if the mix changes. You almost have to go get comps house by house in a particular neighborhood to get the real story and even then, especially in older areas with tons of renovation in recent years, that can be skewed<g> Which is why my examples of simple cookie cutter small almost new ranch homes in Florida tends to weed out all the noise as best as possible..
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