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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth

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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (110778)12/7/2007 12:09:33 AM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) of 173976
 
"Uh, that passage was from the Gospel of Luke. The entire book is about Jesus. Try reading it and you won't end up claiming the Gospel of Luke doesn't mention Jesus. "

That passage doesn' t mention anyone named Jesus.....is that the best you've got?


I will repeat. The passage was from the Gospel of Luke. The entire Gospel of Luke is about Jesus. That's not a debatable claim. Everyone who has cracked open the Bible knows this. If you read a little of it as I've invited you to, you'd know it too.

Amazing. Why are you so afraid of the Bible? What is the reason you can't open a Bible and read it for yourself? Is your faith in atheism that weak, that you fear exposing yourself to Scripture? I wasn't afraid of opening the infidels.org site to see what was there.
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Militantly?
Yep. Anyone can go to infidels.org and judge for themselves if I've described it accurately.

You mean like this????
Definition: 1 : engaged in warfare or combat : fighting 2 : aggressively active (as in a cause) : combative <militant conservationists> <a militant attitude>


"aggressive active (as in a cause)" - Yes that meets the definition.
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In that case, I think the fundies are far more "militant".

You're welcome to your opinion.
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Evenything on the site is about atheism. Why deny this? Anyone who thinks I'm exaggerting can check it out themselves and see.

OK.....show the atheism here.....I see a lot of questions that you should have asked before you blindly became a believer in a story that defies any logical comprehension.... If anyone told you that tale today, you'd laugh them out of the room...

infidels.org;

I've read that and its silly. Claiming Jesus didn't really live at all is as logical as claiming Alexander the Great or George Washington or Socrates never existed.

Gauvin wasn't a scholar and he cites no scholars. He was an uneducated crank:

tektonics.org

If you want real scholarship on the New Testament, go with FF Bruce, Richard Bauckham, or Mark D. Roberts - the sources I referred you to earlier. For example, consider FF Bruce's background:

Frederick Fyvie Bruce (12 October 1910 – 11 September 1990) was a Bible scholar, and one of the founders of the modern evangelical understanding of the Bible. His work New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable? is considered a classic in the discipline of Christian apologetics.

[edit] Biography
He was born in Elgin, Moray in Scotland and was educated at the University of Aberdeen, Cambridge University and the University of Vienna. After teaching Greek for several years first at the University of Edinburgh and then at the University of Leeds he became head of the Department of Biblical History and Literature at the University of Sheffield in 1947. In 1959 he moved to the University of Manchester where he became professor of Biblical Criticism and Exegesis. In his career he wrote some thirty-three books and served as editor of The Evangelical Quarterly and the Palestine Exploration Quarterly. He retired from teaching in 1978.


That's a scholar. Compare to your guy Gauvin:

Marshall J. Gauvin was born near Moncton, New Brunswick, in 1881. As a youth he worked for eleven years for the Canadian National Railways as carpenter and cabinet maker. After years of self-education and preparation, he embarked on a career as a freelance public lecturer and educator. He lectured for fourteen years in Pittsburgh, Indianapolis and Minneapolis. In 1926 he came to Winnipeg at the invitation of the One Big Union. He lectured weekly in Winnipeg for fourteen years on rationalism and humanism in the Metropolitan, Garrick and Dominion theatres. He became well known for his anti-religious sentiments and his weekly "anti-sermons" which were well attended during the 1920's and 1930's. On retiring from the lecture platform in 1940, he worked for the duration of the war at MacDonald Aircraft Ltd. building and repairing planes for the Royal Canadian Air Force. Gauvin also wrote monthly articles for the Truth Seeker magazine until his health failed.

What more needs to be said?
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Christians believe in resurrection of saints???

I'm still waiting for you to explain your citation. Where does it come from? I could guess what you're talking about but why? You should be clear what you're asking about."

I think that is Paul epistles....


Think? Which one? Chapter, verse? Why not just admit you don't have the foggiest notion of what you're talking about?

But that condition can be cured. You can and should educate yourself. I've told you where to go to do that.
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