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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (362950)12/15/2007 5:37:02 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) of 1577917
 
"The willingness to risk one's life for ones country."

You are mixing apples and eggs here. Because just supporting military recruiting or ROTC isn't risking your life. Or much of anything. Protesters who have opposed it have risked bodily harm and imprisonment. So, by your lights, they are greater patriots than those who support those measures.

"What makes you think foreign enemies have constitutional rights?"

We have always extended certain rights to everyone when on our soil. That is what being a nation of laws is all about. There are laws to cover those situations, suddenly declaring this is an unprecedented threat and we have to jettison our laws is how democracies turn into dictatorships.

"I don't have to. We all know that."

No, we all don't. I guess you "know" that, but it doesn't mean it has any basis in reality.

I think part of the problem here is that you think everyone is either a conservative or a liberal. At least that is the way you talk.

That isn't the case. It isn't strictly binary.

"Again, it is mostly those on the left who make that charge."

And again, it isn't strictly binary. There is more to the spectrum than the endpoints.

"Let's take one - the false claim that the US invaded Iraq to steal its oil."

Umm. Ok. What about the false claims that the administration has made? Their rational for invading Iraq has changed many times. The fact of the matter is that there isn't any consistent reason for us invading Iraq.

"Good, I showed that the FF's weren't primarily a bunch of agnostics and free-thinkers as liberals frequently claim. "

Not really. Virtually all of them considered themselves part of the Enlightenment. Which was all about being a free-thinker. You did show that the majority were either Anglican or Congregationalists. Which were the two religions which were established as the only legal religions in most of the colonies. You even tried to paint Jefferson as an ardent Christian.

He wasn't.
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