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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: Cogito who wrote (54664)3/20/2008 3:38:41 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) of 542238
 
In any case, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and John Hagee are closer to being equivalent to Wright in my mind, as Wonk suggested.

Fine.

Here's my statement that started this colloquy: "Again, that doesn't make Wright's outrageous pronouncements any less outrageous or damaging."

So, how does your point about Robertson, etc., make Wright's outrageous pronouncements any less outrageous or damaging? It doesn't. It makes you more sensitive to the unfairness of piling on Obama disproportionately over this, sure, but the statements are still the statements. You want to stick up for your guy. That's understandable. If you want to consciously invoke a bunch of logic fallacies to argue for your guy, that's one thing. Believing them is quite another.

Getting back to Wright, I'd like to know what you think is so terrible about anything he has said?

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I don't think we can reasonably argue that points one and two are false, and I don't see anything wrong with point three.

I can pick at point two a bit. Still a lot of discrimination? I don't claim to know just how much there is. Probably more than some think and less than others think. What I do know is that it's miniscule compared to what it used to be. Back when Wright made his bones, it was horrid. Now, not so much. But he's still railing the same old rail. I can find fault with that. I don't think that serves his people well.

Three, black people, therefore, need to stick together, and need to rely on themselves to get ahead.

That's a topic for another day.

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