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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices
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To: combjelly who wrote (379545)4/21/2008 5:59:24 PM
From: Taro  Read Replies (2) of 1574000
 
the framework for communism was founded on the works of Karl Marx and Frederik Engels.

Here is a hint. They weren't French.

No, those two were not French but the ideas they promoted were:

"It should be noted at this point that Marx did not claim, and nor do Marxists today claim, to be the originator of some
brand new kind of knowledge. Marx’s own claim to original ideas was extremely modest. "We stand on the shoulders of the achievements of those who have gone before; but we subject the theories and ideas active in society to critique. That is to say, we understand ideas as products and a part of social relations, which function in one way or another to sustain the social relations that they reflect."

"Those who have gone before" were in particular the French Utopian Socialists like Francois Guizot (first used 'Class' and 'Class Struggle'), Quesney ('Social Class') and Proudhion and before them Gabriel Mably, another French philosopher who laid ground for the Utopian Socialists.

Furthermore the British David Ricard (1772-1823): 'the greatest English classical economist, a supporter of the labour theory of value; profoundly influenced Karl Marx.'

So your slightly arrogant "Hint. They were'nt French" kind of falls flat in this context.

Even Marx himself made it clear that they had invented nothing.

Taro
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