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To: average joe who wrote (32847)5/9/2008 3:21:55 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) of 217862
 
Seems to me there are pros and cons with both systems.
ALL health systems ration. They have to. They just do it in different ways.

In answer to your question about the Indian MRI

- I don't know -

I would the Indians are pretty good capitalists and would be happy to take your money.

Well, there goes free open-to-all Canadian health care!
WTH, you Canadians can cross the US border and we can get you an MRI fast too!
But if the Canadian health care system is so good, why are those Indians starting their own? I would think they would be clamoring for the Canadian system to take them in! Or are they not considered Canadian citizens?
Speed in getting an MRI here varies. Routine cases, you'll have it anywhere from a day to a week and a half later. In an ER with a hospital than has a machine and your doc needs the results NOW, it'll be minutes before it starts. All hospital ERs I know of have CAT scanners and if needed, you'll have one in minutes.

I made this post awhile ago on another thread.

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In Canada we have experience with socialized medicine and it differs sharply from what I have seen in the U.S.

What have you seen in the US?

Full waiting rooms on weekend nights? Yeah. But if you go in with a true medical emergency, you go right to the head of the line and in the ER. Those people out in the waiting room will have to wait longer, but it's already been judged they can.

Oh, you ignored essentially all of this:
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That's mostly YOUR GOVERNMENT speaking!

I can't speak for Scotland or anywhere else except Brasil where they have excellent medical diagnosis and treatment if you can afford it.
I can speak knowledgeably of Mexico, which has a national health system. If you are in Mexico City, Guadalajara, Merida, or Cancun AND KNOW WHERE TO GO, you can get excellent care. The same is true of San Jose, Costa Rica.
If you don't know where to go and get stuck in the national health system, good luck. How about a broken bone being diagnosed as a "bad sprain, take it easy for a few days" with NO X-RAY being taken (they lacked an X-ray machine)???? Or severe cholera being diagnosed as "just turista"? If I hadn't insisted on seeing a private doc and instead undergone a few more days of that "just turista", I very likely wouldn't be writing this.

Modern medicine is comprised of two things, diagnosis and treatment. Under socialized medicine in Canada diagnosis is sometimes too expensive to bother with and treatment becomes redundant as the patient dies which is a cost saving bonus to the system, i.e. a good thing. Less patients less expense.
So Canadian citizens are throw away? WTH, there are more born all the time anyway!
Nice rationalization, BTW. You'd make a good extermination camp guard.

Perhaps the U.S. should offer private diagnosis and socialized treatment.
Perhaps the US should do neither.

It is very clear they are two completely separate branches of medicine.
Clear to whom? Where'd you get your MD?

DIAGNOSIS

In Canada if you're really ill you are sometimes advised by your own doctor to seek diagnosis in the U.S. at much greater cost.

Yeah, we see them commonly. Except usually they weren't sent here by a Canadian doc. They simply refused to wait the 6 months to 3 years required to get optional surgery. If your foot is screwed up and you can't walk. it won't kill you directly. OTOH, you probably can't work. Starvation might, though.
Oh, that's right, you have a socialistic "safety net", so you starve. You just have to ignore the pain, the boredom., and escape the side effects of inactivity like strokes and heart attacks.

My doctor is from South Africa as most Canadian trained doctors seek employment in the U.S. where their talents are rewarded.
D*** right! That's YOUR problem, though!

TREATMENT

In Canada we can treat anything as good as you can in the U.S. only cheaper. Monkey see monkey do.

Proof?
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