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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (65387)5/12/2008 4:23:19 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) of 541997
 
This is terribly discouraging. We can't even agree to disagree. You are not even for letting the nomination process go to a logical conclusion where one of the candidates wins the election out right (eg getting the necessary delegate count). You want Obama to be given the election.

If you wish, I'll be happy to agree to disagree. But I certainly don't want Obama "to be given th election." If Clinton wishes to take this all the way to June, she certainly has the right. But I can't see any path by which she gets the nomination, save some catastrophe for the Obama campaign. And campaigns are not, should not be, premised on that.

I see those points you make about Obama and I can see how you get there. But the stark reality, Mary, is that the voters didn't see it that way. Obama is in the position he is in now because he has won every metric one can imagine. There is, of course, only one metric that counts--delegates. But Obama has so many delegates that no one outside the Clinton camp can see a path to a win; he has won the most states; and he has won the most popular vote.

I don't see where I demonize her. I've typed here that I've grown discouraged by her as I've watched the kind of campaign she's run. I don't see how that's demonizing.

But if you consider it that, then I'll grant you, we can agree to disagree as to what counts as demonizing.
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