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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: KonKilo who wrote (65464)5/13/2008 11:09:53 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (2) of 541777
 
It's in the Constitution, right?

I posted this excerpt from a passage in James' Madison's Notebooks a few months ago. It expresses his opinion about the constitutionality of prayer in public places:

Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the US forbids every thing like an establishment of a national religion. The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them; and these are to be paid out of national taxes. Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the constituent as well as of the representative body, approved by the majority, and conducted by ministers of religion paid by the entire nation? The establishment of the chaplainship to Congress is a palapable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles. The tenets of the Chaplains elected shut the door of worship against the members whose creeds and consciences forbid a participation in that of the majority. To say nothing of other sects, this is the case with that of Roman Catholics and Quakers who have always had members in one or both of the legislative branches. Could a Catholic clergyman every hope to be appointed a Chaplain? To say that religious principles are obnoxious or that his sect is small, is to lift the veil at once and exhibit in its naked deformity the doctrine that religious truth is to be tested by numbers, or that the major sects have a right to govern the minor.

--James Madison, 1817

Madison's distinction of Catholics and Quakers from other Christian sects is instructive. As a Jew who was in elementary school at about the time prayer in public schools was outlawed, I have to say that I agree with Madison. In fact, my 5th grade teacher had us say the Lord's Prayer every morning, despite the fact that almost half the class was Jewish. I refused to say it one morning. I just didn't want to. The teacher went ballistic, and sent me to the principal. He backed me, and told the teacher to allow me to sit quietly when it was being said (she had us stand to say it and the Pledge of Allegiance). In a matter of weeks, the prayer itself was dropped.

But that wasn't MS or AL. There were numerous Jewish people living in the area, and most of the Christians weren't, shall we say impolitely, crazy about saying it anyway. Only a few, including this teacher.
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