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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: spiral3 who wrote (68530)5/26/2008 2:52:41 AM
From: DanD  Read Replies (1) of 542650
 
When you said:

when it is a zygote there is no egg.

I assumed you meant the zygote preceded the egg. But I believe I understand you now to mean that once the egg has been fertilized and the zygote has formed then there is no longer an egg. Correct?

But then you say:

The fact that there was a time when there weren't chickens or eggs has nothing to do with anything and they most definitely co-arose, that thing ain't hatching unless both are present.

That there is an egg and the chicken pops out of it. Hence the chicken and the chicken egg came into existence at the same instance.

You can't have it both ways. An egg -- not even a chicken egg -- cannot both be an egg and not be an egg as the same time.

I maintain that unfertilized chicken eggs only come out of chickens.

And that the egg that came out of the chicken ancestor was in fact an egg, but not a chicken egg. What kind of egg was it before it was fertilized and the mutant zygote formed? I dunno, but it weren't no chicken. How many stages of evolution did it go through before it was a chicken. I dunno that either, but somewhere along the line, it started to look like a chicken. Talk like a chicken. Walk like a chicken and squawk like a chicken. Until someone wisely said, "Hey look a chicken," Then that chicken laid the first chicken egg. And now there are hundreds of varieties of chickens.

So what came first, the Rhode Island Red or the egg? Hint: The Rhode Island Red. The Silky or the egg? Hint: The Silky.

A chicken egg comes from a chicken.

No chicken, no chicken egg.

The egg that the first chicken -- or if you prefer chicken-o-saurus -- came from was not a chicken egg. It was an egg of the chicken ancestor or series of ancestors.

The mutation happened inside the egg, after fertilization, in the zygote stage, thus creating a chicken.

The chicken then laid the first chicken egg.

I'm done with this subject. And you're all on ignore!

Nothing personal.
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