And that the egg that came out of the chicken ancestor was in fact an egg, but not a chicken egg. What kind of egg was it before it was fertilized and the mutant zygote formed? I dunno, but it weren't no chicken. How many stages of evolution did it go through before it was a chicken. I dunno that either, but somewhere along the line, it started to look like a chicken. Talk like a chicken. Walk like a chicken and squawk like a chicken. Until someone wisely said, "Hey look a chicken," Then that chicken laid the first chicken egg. And now there are hundreds of varieties of chickens.
Dan, when the question is asked, which came first the chicken or the egg, surely we’re talking about which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg. I mean if not, what would be the point of the question.
The thing is, you say above, that a chicken laid the first chicken egg, and if that’s the case then the chicken comes first. But what you have been saying all along, in fact you have scientific proof, is that the egg came first. So if, when you say egg, you are not talking about the chicken egg, we have a different understanding of the question. I still think you have been hoodwinked by good science and terrible philosophy. The questions you so easily dismiss actually get to the heart of the issue. But I won’t go there, except for one small thing, which is rhetorical more than anything else, I hope.
but somewhere along the line, it started to look like a chicken.
Exactly, you have imputed a chicken using a discrete data point in a continuum of development. Before you called it a chicken, did the chicken exist or not. |