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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: biotech_bull who wrote (70829)6/5/2008 9:37:57 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (5) of 542675
 
but the word 'claims' takes it into deception territory

That could mean "claims based on false intelligence." It doesn't necessarily imply deception. And there's no claim of lying in the timeline.

That this administration bit hard on false intelligence claims is not hard to fathom

No, not at all, but I can't find proof of lies. It seems to me that you simply don't call someone a liar unless you can prove it. And you particularly don't do it in an environment like this one. I'm comfortable calling Bush a lot of things--the worst president of my lifetime, a disgrace--but those are about incompetence. I can't get to liar, not and maintain good conscience or intellectual integrity.

I would very much like for someone to either show me an unquestionable lie--no plausible deniability--or, failing that, to explain what ethic allows for calling him a liar. If not--and I'm going to bring out the "should" word here--folks should quit calling him a liar.
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