Re: You are obviously unqualified to say anything about this, one way or the other.
LOL. This coming from the guy who in his last post said AMD will be able to take a 55-nm 67mm^2 Radeon 3450 GPU, double its stream processor count from 40 to 80, add DX11 support, and then magically shrink the core size down to 20mm^2 at 45-nm for Fusion. Look out for those $100 100mm^2 5GHz quad-core Nehalems in Q2 2009 while you are at it.
The verbage used in that 12/13/2007 presentation said that Fusion covers mobile, gaming, commercial and serving (its even on the "roadmap" presentation as APU computing).
Yes, APU computing as in mobile APU computing first. On this recent slide that the (mobile) Shrike platform will use the First Accelerated Processing Unit.
engadget.com
It seems pretty clear that AMD has little or no intention at this point to promote Fusion for desktop use at launch, but will do so after the mobile launch.
As to Nehalem desktop being low cost, someone forgot to tell Intel that Nehalem MBs can't be 8 layers (might be able to get it down to 6). 8 layer MBs go for $250 and up. An $80-100 CPU doesn't mean much when it has to be paired with a $250 MB and a $50 discrete GPU.
More BS. The 8-layer boards were for high-end Bloomfield CPUs that have triple-channel memory and don't have integrated graphics. The versions of Nehalem with integrated graphics will be on 4-layer boards.
As to AMD not going to 2nd gen 45nm SOI
Good luck with your R800 2nd-gen 45-nm SOI launch in Q2 2009. You'll need it.
I merely responded about your foolish statement that 780G couldn't play games at playable frame rates at normal screen sizes
Are you responding to voices in your head? I never claimed 780G couldn't play any games at "reasonably smooth" framerates at native LCD resolutions, just DX10 games.
THe 780G does play one DirectX 10.1 game at playable rates, Assassin's Creed:
"Playable" is something less than "reasonably smooth". Your quoted review does NOT make a strong case for 780G, and you "forgot" to quote the "Cons" section from the newegg review. It's hard to brag about "reasonably smooth" gameplay on the 780G when the review says this: "Even with the upgraded heatsink, the 780 tends to sit at 80C and loads up to 90C with very adequate case airflow. Also as the sucker heats up (780), games will tend to lock up and lag for a moment". I wouldn't be surprised if his 780G is overclocked as well. Also notice they don't plan to continue using 780G graphics and will be replacing it with a 3870 or 4850.
You won't get any argument for me that 780G is far, far superior to Intel integrated graphics, and that it will play many games on the store shelves today. But I don't pretend that it is good for DX10 gaming.
It appears that DirectX 11 is just 10.1 with all options required.
Sure, just like DX 10.1 is just DX9.0c with all options required. I'm going to flash my GeForce 7900GT to a DX10.1 card later today. |
