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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread
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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (22457)7/25/2008 4:40:29 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) of 36917
 
That's the best description I have seen. "The Greenhouse Effect" is a very bad one which was appropriate for 19th century thinking.

<The effect of Greenhouse gases is the delay of the transfer of heat from the Earth to space. The most accurate name is the Cooling delay effect.>

Bulking the atmosphere by adding a minuscule amount of CO2 seems a weak way of keeping heat in the atmosphere. Minuscule compared with the effect of water in vapour, cloud, snow/ice forms and water. Water is stupendously vast in its effects which are very rapid. One winter snow storm can blanket huge areas of green in highly reflective white. Clouds reflect a lot of light which would be absorbed and turned to heat if it landed on dark surfaces such as oceans, rocks or leaves.

In experiments, what matters is the actual data, not the theory. Whatever theory we like to use to explain climate, the fact is that temperatures on Earth over 100 years have not increased despite stupendously huge efforts and expense in carbon exploration, production and combustion. If all we could achieve in 100 years is no change, the next 100 years aren't likely to be a lot better.

Turning crops to fuel instead of food seems not just stupid but criminal when umpty million people are very keen on having more to eat and there is obviously zero climatic advantage to burning crops.

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