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To: steve who wrote (4241)10/18/1997 4:27:00 PM
From: brad greene   of 26039
 
Hey Little steve....

Check this out......A radio show transcript, I think.

RatMan views....but from a knowledgable source.....Digitized Fingerprints on all driver's licences.........Prefered biometrics is fingerprinting.......Federal Law.....

"mark" my words....driver's licencing will be a "beast" of a business for IDX........

Here is the transcript........

30 July 1997

Guest: Cyndee Parker, activist

Summary:

RF:"Well, you know, we live in a supposed free society ladies and gentlemen---what is the cost of freedom I guess? I mean how much are you willing to pay? You know you can buy freedom now is you've got enough money you can go to Washington, D.C. and put money in the DNC or the Clintonista campaign fund, or something, and buy a little freedom. But in this country rapidly we are losing our freedom---our rights. And more and more government, big brother, wants us to---well---submit to the nanny state. And I don't want too---I don't want to submit---I don't want to lose my privacy, lose my freedoms, surrender my autonomy---my personal sovereignty for whatever purposes the government finds neccessary. And they seem lately to be finding plenty of reasons that you and I should have to surrender more and more of our freedom.

One of the most heinous things going on out there is this fingerprint law---the national ID card---and this is stuff that people used to put off, you know, on the back burner as some futuristic thing out of a George Orwell novel that will never happen in America. Well it is happening right now! It is the most amazing thing. And I had a number of you call and whine and cry and babble about me talking about it and doing something about it. And so---to quiet the incredible drumming beat of your loud screaming voices, I've invited Cyndee Parker from Georgia who is one of the spokespersons for the coalition to repeal the fingerprints law across the country---she's going to explain all of this to us. Cyndee, welcome to the show."

CP:"Well thank you very much for having me on."

RF:"Well why don't you first tell us a little bit about what you all are doin'---and then get into the nitty gritty---what have done to us?"

CP:"Yeah, that's a long story. But what we're doing right now is--- we're working with state legislatures, all around the United States--- trying to prevent them from implementing the federal law in each given state. Now for instance for Oregon they've---"

RF:"Wait, wait, wait---wait, wait. What is the law?"

CP:"Ok, the law---this came out of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. And Diane Feinstein was the author of that law. And it appeared around page 650 of the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 3610) back in '96. It was signed into law in September of '96 by President Clinton. And what it says in there is that the Secretary of the Treasury along with the of American Association for Motor Vehicle Administrators---which all states belong to, with the exception of 5 or 6. And the state motor vehicle administrators will design a new driver's license for each of the fifty states. And in those driver's licenses they will have biometric identification. Now the American Association for Motor Vehicle Administrators in their recommendations, stated that they thought that digitized fingerprints were the best identifier, even above retinal scans. So that is what everything is based on now---every state is to put digitized fingerprints---along with a digitized photograph and a digitized signature---on their driver's license. Now the law does not call for the signature and the photograph, but it does call for the fingerprints.

It is not written directly into the law, tho' you have to know quite a bit about what's going on behind the scenes---and in my case I happen to have already read the AAMVA recommendations---so I knew---when I saw that--- that was fingerprints. And sure enough in Oregon, Texas, Colorado, Georgia, I believe Virginia or West Virginia---it just passed in Illinois--- they tried to just do it in Alabama---all of them---digitized fingerprints. So they know exactly what recomendations they are going on and that is AAMVA.

RF:"...so you've got your thumbprint on your driver's license---OK,so what?"

CP:"Well you don't have it on there, you never see it. It is either put into a two dimensional barcode or it put into a magnetic strip. And it's in one or the other. Now you and I can not see what's in that bar code or in that strip, we have to take their word for it that that is all that is in there. I have found out in just the last couple of days---I spoke with somebody who was with a person that was pulled over in California--- California was the very first state to do this---and they have the magnetic strips on the back of theirs. But anyway, this individual is an adult and he was pulled over and they walked back to the patrol car---the police officer took their driver's license. slid it through a reader in his car, and his juvenile record was embedded in that strip. Now those are supposed to be sealed. I mean not even judges are supposed to look at those once you become of age. That is supposed to be sealed permanently for, you know, so all the stupid stuff you do as a teenager so it won't haunt you for the rest of your life. Well this was actually embedded into that magnetic strip on this man's card---on his driver's license. Now---that's just one thing.

Now they keep telling you and telling you---'Oh no that's not on there' --- the only thing that's on there is the same information that's on the front of the card--which is your name,your address, your weight, your height, your eye color, you know, and that kind of stuff. That is not true. We don't know what all is in there. Even in this particular case, they saw the juvenile history pop up, but they did not see what else is on there. And there is no way for the public to know what is on these cards. And anybody who is very trusting of government says: 'Oh well they say this is on there and I believe them, you know so what, big deal'. And then you hear people say: 'Well I gave my fingerprints when I was in the service'; 'I gave my fingerprints when I got a gun permit, big deal'. What they don't understand is this is very very different. This is digitized. Anybody who has watched "Forrest Gump" , for instance with the digitized photograph, knows that Forrest Gump ended up with President Kennedy--hob knobin' with him and so on and so forth---and in that particular case, we know he was not there.

And---there are other things that can happen with this as well. We had some cases in New York and we also had a case in Georgia--just a couple of months ago, at the first of the year, where fingerprints were labeled as crime scene evidence, and used to prosecute people. In the case of New York---I believe there were six police officers involved up there---that were finally indicted and imprisioned for it. But they said there were so many people in prison, that they didn't even have knowlege of how many people these guys had set up and used this fingerprint information on. In Georgia, this man spent a year in prison for bank robbery-- well I don't know if he committed it or not, but anyway spent a year in prison for bank robbery---because a police officer, his name was Officer Kaminski, in Garden City, Georgia---labeled his fingerprints as crime scene evidence. And he was convicted. Now Officer Kaminski is now in jail and the man he defrauded is no longer in jail. Which is good. But those are just the cases we know about, so far.

And then you also have the problem with the digitized signatures. ...Ok, let's say for instance---you're doing something that's politically incorrect or they just decide they don't like you and decide that, you know, you're their target---'cause, hey maybe you let too much truth out on your radio show'. 'I bombed the Olympics' and signed, you know, with your name on there--- prove it's not your signature---it certainly is.

And then as far as the fingerprints are concerned---we get into a lot of things with that. One is violation of the first amendment--dealing with religious liberty. The reason for that is that there are thousand and thousands of people that have contacted us alone here in Georgia and said: ' I believe this is the mark of the beast'....

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Website: atlantainfoguide.com

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