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To: Ken Robbins who wrote (107864)	8/26/2008 4:51:20 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (2) of 206084

You must not have two neurons to rub together to not realize what the northernmost outpost of the Caribbean means. Does the fact that I don't mention NO in my profile mean I don't live here? Where did you get your deductive skills? K Mart? And while you are exposing your lack of brains, toad, you might want to read this: hurricane.lsu.edu The floating tank phenomenon mentioned by the professor actually happened at the Murphy Oil refinery at Chalmette during K. Smeared Chalmette with lots of crude. I can see the Murphy refinery if I want to by simply walking ten steps to a south facing window in my office. I can see Norco from my own office. Do you know what Norco is about? Who are we supposed to believe, you or someone who makes his living studying these issues? asce.org A study of industry practices published in 1997 by ASCE found that the windresistant design of onshore refineries and petrochemical plants varied tremendously due to the aerodynamic complexity of the types of structures involved and the lack of coverage of these types of structures in any building codes or standards. An unexplored aspect of this report is that many industrial plants do not understand how vulnerable their processing and storage facilities may be to extreme winds. Many plants specify a wind speed to which their facilities should be designed, but because of uncertainties in how the wind interacts with the complex structures, the actual wind the structure can resist might be much larger or smaller. In practical terms – the actual design strength may be more than one SaffirSimpson Hurricane Category less than or greater than the intended design. In most cases the owners/operators of the facilities are unaware of this discrepancy, which is very important considering that decisions on whether to shut down a plant are generally based on the expected Hurricane Category at landfall. Additional study is needed to further define this problem, and cooperation with this industry and the preparedness/response community. Hey, on days like these, when I have to contend with the stress caused by things like Gustav and the idiocies of the ignorati like you, I wish I did not live in NO.

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