Bilow Stubborn on DSP sales Rates!
Hi Robert;
In reply to my post #1800, you wrote: You missed on the 80% was semiconductor.Don't forget that The Def.Electronics was in the 2Q #s. in explanation of how I may have miscalculated TI's annualized growth in DSP revenues. I computed the annualized growth rate of DSP sales from the most recent two quarter's figures. When it came to only 11% instead of the 30 to 40% that TI has been suggesting possible for the coming decade, I suggested this as an explanation for why the stock was hit so hard after the third quarter numbers came out.
I've looked at it pretty carefully, and I believe I'm correct in using the 80% figure, and that TI did not include revenue for the business sold to Raytheon in the 2nd quarter numbers. First of all, if TI really did have a 3-month growth in DSP income of 26% to 49%, as you suggested, we can all be sure that we would have heard about it. TI is not known for hiding its successes, and it would make for a great story.
At issue is whether TI's revenue figure for the 2nd quarter, $2559M, includes revenue of the business it sold to Raytheon. The 2nd quarter report includes the following: NOTE: On July 11, the sale of TI's defense business was closed with Raytheon Company for $2.95 billion in cash. The net proceeds have been placed in short-term interest- bearing money market securities and will contribute to interest income. The net gain of approximately $1.5 billion, after taxes and transaction costs, will be included in the company's third- quarter 1997 results. Throughout this report, the defense operation is reported as a discontinued business.
2Q97 Quarterly Report Edgar sec.gov
It is my interpretation that TI's revenue only includes revenue from continuing businesses. Since they breakout income into continuing and discontinued operations, they have to include revenue for continuing operations in order to have a financial statement, and since they never talk about revenues for their discontinued operations, the revenue numbers they give must be for continuing operations. This is basic accounting.
The TI 2nd quarter report (and also the third quarter report) is a little unclear about the issue, but the first quarter report makes it obvious:
Note: Throughout this report, TI's defense operations are reported as a discontinued business. As previously reported, TI expects the acquisition by Raytheon of its defense business to close in the second quarter of 1997.
Revenues from continuing operations during the first quarter of 1997 were $2263 million, down 15 percent from the year-ago period, reflecting lower prices for dynamic random access memory (DRAM) chips, and the absence of revenues due to the sale of TI's mobile computing, custom manufacturing services and printer businesses. 1Q97 Quarterly Report Edgar sec.gov
To check this, note that the 2Q97 report gives $2559M for 2Q97 revenue, and $4823M for first 6 months 97 revenue. This implies revenue for the first quarter of $4823M - $2559M = $2264M, which agrees with what is listed as revenue for continuing operations of the first quarter (and which explicitly did not include defense). In other words, TI has only been reporting revenue numbers for those portions of its business that it expects to keep in the company throughout 1997. Thus its numbers are comparable between quarters of this year and following years. You only need to adjust for defense revenue when comparing quarters before 1997 to quarters after 1996.
In fact, in the 3rd quarter press release, TI gives total revenue for the first 9 months, and this fits with the 2nd quarter numbers for the first 6 months. But TI notes that these numbers are not comparable with the prior year numbers:
Revenues for the first nine months of 1997 were $7322 million, compared with $7481 million in the first nine months of 1996. Excluding the sold businesses, TI revenues were up 11 percent versus down 2 percent as reported. TI Reports Increased Profits for Third Quarter 1997 TI ti.com
Thus it is clear that TI is still reporting only revenues from contuing operations.
So you will have to look for another error in my calculation. I look forward to hearing from you.
-- Carl |