petekoby, I agree with all you write and more so to your statement of << Half of country feel attached to Russia, and half of country is very nationalists and hates Russians. >>>
More specifically regarding Odessa, for those that are unfamiliar with the geography of the place I think that you would agree that the city is very close to the old Romanian borders, and very far from Moscow or Novgorod or St. Petersburg.
As to the establishment of the city by Ekatherine II I fully agree and it only proves how the Russians expanded into territories which did not belong to Medieval Russia.
Ukraine in particular is a great example of this type of expansion as neither Donetsk, Lugansk Dnepropetrovsk and many other industrialized cities in the Ukraine Donbass region where established by the Russians with the help of Europeans. At the time of the establishment of those ciities Ukraine was under Russian rule, as it was annexed centuries earlier.
Needless to say that the Donbass Region is strongly behind Russia in the Georgian conflict.
Russian used same tricks of resettlement in all places they conquered and then claiming as their own territory. Snatching Bucovina from Romania is a great example and later settling ethnic Russians in Chernovtsy. Is therefore Bucovina Rusian? or Ukrainian (as itis today) or Romanian as it was when my mother was born there?
As to the treatment of your mother my parents went trough similar suffering and I would agree that both the Romanians and Ukrainians committed horrible crimes during WWII as did the remnants of the Russian White Army which allied itself with Nazi Germany, even that I see the handing over of those hundred of thousands of peopel and familes to the Red Army by the Britsh forces not a lesser crime than that of the Germans during WWII
Also please keep in mind that the area of Eastern Ukraine including Crimea with Cherson and Kerch and to the shores of the Caspian Sea, where the core of the Khazahr Empire (related to the Volga Bulgars), which was destroyed by the Medieval Rus. The hatred of the Slavic Tribes of Ukraine toward the modern day Jews dates back to the Khazar Empire who adopted the Jewish faith.
At their height, the Khazar khaganate and its tributaries controlled much of what is today southern Russia, western Kazakhstan, eastern Ukraine, Azerbaijan, large portions of the Caucasus (including Circassia, Dagestan, Chechnya, and parts of Georgia), and the Crimea.
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To this day there are so called “Mountain Jews” in the Caucasus Mountians which may be the descendants of the Khazars or of those Jews that fled historic Israel due the extermination policies of Roman and Bizantine Empire who fought Christianity and the people who propagated this new branch of the Jewish faith – which at the time was the closest to Carl Marks modern Communism |
