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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It?

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To: cirrus who wrote (51384)	10/14/2008 12:29:07 PM
From: Geoff Altman	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) of 224655

To: Oral Roberts who wrote (274199) 10/13/2008 2:07:00 PM From: Hawkmoon 5 Recommendations of 274411 When you add in the fact that I've been saying for some time that the CIA has been running an op against an elected president for going on 8 years and then to hear this. Wowza. Yeah.. I had a few concerns as well during my 2 year stint in Iraq. Any information that pointed to a link between Saddam's Intelligence Service and Islamist terrorist groups seemed to be stifled. Even when we found documented evidence of his service actively recruiting members of Al Qaida, it was deemed unworthy of immediate reporting, but effectively blocked. Evidence that Saddam was personally directing his intelligence service to coordinate with Egyptian Islamic Jihad (later merged with Al Qaida) in 1993 to target American interests in "Arab lands" and in particular Somalia (prior to the events of Blackhawk Down) were ignored and never brought to Bush's attention. This despite the fact that the documents were personally signed by Saddam and that it provided the "smoking gun" that proved that Saddam was seeking to support and utilize Jihadist groups to attack US interests. When I broached my opinion to some of these "leading analysts" that I was seeing significant linkages between Al Qaida groups and former high level officers of Iraq's intelligence service, it was ignored as an "anomaly". This despite the fact that you didn't get to become a member of the high ranking Ba'th intelligence infrastructure unless you were highly vetted. The "heir apparent" of Al Qaida in Iraq after the death of Zarqawi, Abu Ayman, was a former aid to the Chief of Staff of Iraqi Intelligence: jamestown.org regimeofterror.com (granted, this link goes a bit far in the Ba'th/Al Qaida linkage) Thus, only two primary conclusions could be arrived at from the level of involvement between Iraq's intelligence service and Al Qai'da. Either there were previous linkages that created a semblance of trust between secular ba'th intelligence officers and Salafist Jihadists, or Iraqi Intelligence, like that of the IIS in Pakistan, had been heavily infiltrated by Jihadists. I personally suspected the latter, especially given how Saddam was "forced" to look to the Salafist Arab tribal structure to support his regime after Desert Storm. This was also the time that he placed "Allah Ahkbar" on the SECULAR Iraqi flag. It was my belief that this Salafist subversion of Iraq's secular regime had been underway for at least 10 years, if not longer. But oh well.. The politicizing of intelligence is nothing new. Hawk

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