<The debate, for just about everyone who has a very developed opinion **, comes down to the status of the fetus, whether it is considered a human with human rights or not. Women generally, or the mother specifically don't have any special status in determining that issue.>
This is pretty much the cruxt of the issue. Of course the POINT of "womans right to chose" is exactly that the mother DOES and in fact is THE ONLY ONE that has "special" status in determining the issue. Obviously on assumes that husband, friends, family, doctor would be involved as pertains to the womans relationship with each.
<<If you assume (as you apparently do) that the fetus doesn't have, and properly shouldn't be considered to have human rights, than the decision would be properly up to the pregnant woman, not because she has some special status in the larger debate, but because, at least in your mind, the issue is fully decided and there is no other human with anywhere near the level of direct involvement in the situation that she does.>>
You've contradicted yourself here... the last sentance gives her special status yes. And OF COURSE she has special status, I think what you're getting at is the level of that status and what it means to the issue at hand.
<In your opinion it just about her, that she is the only human directly effected by the procedure.>
No, I didn't say that...please refer back to the original post if you want to discuss seriously. My whole point is that they aren't separate, what effects the woman also the baby, the baby also the woman. That's the whole point.
<If on the other hand you see another human involved, namely the fetus, then their are two people directly effected, both of their rights need to be considered and respected>
Yes, of course.
<and right to live is more important than the right not to be pregnant (at least when the pregnancy isn't very likely to kill the woman, so that two people have right to life considerations).>
I agree with this but this is where the rubber meets the road. But much more than "kill the mother".. Issues like rape, health of the mother, AND psychological issues....
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