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Politics : The abortion issue: pro-choice vs. anti-abortion
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To: TimF who wrote (113)10/15/2008 7:30:10 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) of 286
 
<If you assume that fetal rights don't exist, or are unimportant or irrelevant, then you would be correct.If you assume the opposite, then you would be wrong, the mother doesn't have special status in determining natural/human rights. >

As I've said, I don't (especially in very early pregnancy and to a lessor extent later on) think the mother is separate from the fetus so I don't view a "black or what" "right or wrong" issue... it's shades of grey with 'fetal rights' increasing over time.

<The question is which assumption is correct.>

As I say, it's a gradient IMHO... it would be 'nice' if such complex issues had easy black and white answers.

<In other words you start out the argument with neither idea assumed as a precondition for the discussion.>

I started out the "discussion"... ie. not an argument... assuming that the mother and fetus are not separate... they both always have rights which are intertwined. This is intuitively obvious no?

<Given that starting condition the mother doesn't have a special status in that determination.>

Given that starting condition the mother has BY FAR the most important staus vs anyone else but her fetus... which is not separate from her. Further at the time of conception her status in at it's Maximum declining slowly over time as the fetus developes.

<Where she does have a special status, is in the context of the current legal regimes in the US and many other countries, that assumes 1 - The fetus has no rights,

But here in the US... the mother has "special status" which decreases over time in AND the fetus has rights which increase over time.... which is what one would expect given the biological situation in which the fetus becomes "more developed" over time (becoming less dependant and less apart of the mother).

DAK
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