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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: Lane3 who wrote (92298)10/28/2008 5:22:36 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (2) of 541769
 
That's the very essence for reasonableness--whether you can make a coherent logical case for it. One can recognize a demonstrated case independent of agreement with it. The only situation in which you can demonstrate fairness is where there is an established set of rules, which enables you to confirm that the rules were applied.

"Reason" is the same way. There are rules, even if the rules aren't necessarily articulated. That is why people need to study and why people who haven't gone through the requisite studying in a particular discipline can't always follow the experts in the discipline. The experts have been initiated into the gestault of the discipline, into the ruling paradigms and the evidence and reasoning behind the conclusions.

Read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas Kuhn and/or Personal Knowledge by Michael Polanyi. Even logic has its rules. Don't confuse logic with reason. They are different. Wittgenstein and some other analytic philosophers are also possibilities, although I confess I haven't read the former and never could read the latter with any real comprehension. But they had similar insights in this regard (although they are very different in other ways).

Edit: If you are talking about nonscientific reason, then it is culturally based. You need to know the culture in order to understand the "reasoning." Simple realism, which appears to be the philosophic doctrine that you seem to be espousing, has long ago been discarded. It just doesn't hold up to analysis.

Second edit: Think about language and the rules of grammar. Normal educated people know the rules of grammar of their native language, know what is "right" and "wrong" even if they can't diagram a sentence. Other languages are structured completely differently. One isn't more "reasonable" than the other; they are all reasonable in accordance with their rules--and the rules change over time in ways that can't be predicted, but can be seen in hindsight.
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