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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth

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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (150012)12/15/2008 11:10:36 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) of 173976
 
"But they will. "Separate but equal" was legal discrimination in this country years before the Supreme Court put an end to it. I'm making the same argument with gay marriage bans."

You continue retreading the bigotry issue, knowing full well there is no equivalency. Separate but equal was based on a premise that people of separate races, when segregated, would have equal opportunities, benefits, protections, access to institution and culture, etc and that society would thrive in the best manner possible under that system. It was wrong, it was discriminatory in substantial and consequential ways, it failed and it has nothing, zero, nada to do with gay marriage. It is an insult to those who have struggled to bring equal civil rights to our culture when you suggest the marriage issue belongs in the same venue of historical notation.

Gay people are not denied access, opportunities, full integration into society and full protection of the law, They are not discriminated against in any way or fashion.

"Claiming straight marriage, "produced core families with a set of cultural values that builds community and a particular type of society," while claiming gay culture as "founded upon carnal materialism" is bigotry.

No it isn't, it is a simple fact of difference. The two are not the same and you can't make them the same by calling them by the same word. You can, however, render the term useless, which seems more underlying and purposeful to your rhetoric.

"You're a heterosexual supremacist. Why not just own it?"

I would be happy to if there were a shred of truth in it. The fact is you prefer calling me names that don't apply to considering reason and principle in discussion with me. You are free to do so, I know it's your choice and I've have always been an advocate of choice but we both know it exposes your failures and cowardice when you do that. up to you...
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