I am guessing you aren't familiar with the techniques used by the Chinese and North Koreans during the Korean war against our captured servicemen? Or, for that matter, familiar with how those techniques are regarded?
FU.
Loud music wasn't one of them.
None of the tactics that were brought from the Korean war have been considered as "torture" by us until this presidency. We have always regarded OUR USE of sleep deprivation, exposure, etc., as a legitimate, non-torture interrogation tactic.
Bill Clinton supported, and AFAIK, still supports the use of these tactics, including waterboarding, under certain circumstances (like those that exited with KSM). Clinton didn't call them "torture" when HE used them.
You people conveniently overlook the fact that CLINTON, NOT BUSH, started the practice of extraordinary rendition. And the torture applied in these instances was the REAL thing, not merely loud music. YET, NOT ONE OF YOU HAD A WORD TO SAY ABOUT IT DURING THE CLINTON YEARS.
So, you cannot reasonably argue that Bush's view of these measures is any more harsh than previous administrations.
In fact, while some of these techniques were used in Korea and many other places, those that were used at Gitmo were never considered torture by most people until now. |