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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: epicure who wrote (105009)2/26/2009 4:41:24 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) of 542688
 
Even at the Junior college Spanish 1 is really Spanish 1-3 at the high school level. And I know that for a fact.

College classes move more quickly, as I said. After two years of high school Spanish, you start college in Spanish 2 (which is what I did). After four years of high school Spanish, you start college in Spanish 3, give or take. One year of high school language equals one semester in college.

And there's no liar like long term memory

I took German in college. I started in German 1 because I entered college with no knowledge of the language beyond "dummkopf" and "kraut." I know that was a long time ago, but that's not something you forget. Even if I couldn't remember, it's not logical it could be otherwise. Think about it. If you start studying a language from scratch, you start with "how are you; I am fine." You can't start with more advanced material if you start from scratch in college any more than if you start from scratch in high school. Start is start. Spanish 1 is Spanish 1. I took Japanese at a junior college a couple of decades ago. Started with Japanese 1. You always start at 1 and 1 starts with "my name is; what is your name."

when someone says you can learn a language from a dictionary.

You have me tempted to pull out your old line, "show me the post." If you're going to throw what I say back at me, get it right.

I never said you can learn a language from a dictionary. But you sure can build vocabulary that way. Once you can read reasonably well, you read more difficult material looking up words you don't know. Isn't that how you built your vocabulary in English? I still encounter words I don't know. I look them up in the dictionary and make a note to remember them. Works the same way for Spanish speaking kids. Even Spanish textbooks are set up that way. Each chapter has reading material with new words added and the definitions at the end of the chapter or in the back of the book. I still have Spanish textbooks in my house. One of them came from a class taught at EPA fewer than ten years ago. I don't have to rely on ancient memories to know how textbooks are formatted or why they are formatted that way.

But of course, you are an expert

I don't claim to be an expert. But I've taken language classes at the college level at three colleges. All three colleges were on this planet. I know what I know.
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