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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: greenspirit who wrote (109805)4/25/2009 10:30:46 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (2) of 541471
 
>>I think the intelligence agencies know a heck of a lot more about how to obtain information than we do. Do you think they enjoy water- boarding terrorists and that's why they went about it? Or do you believe as I do their training and experience taught them this would get the job done? Which BTW looks like it may have worked. Unfortunately, the transparent Obama administration has decided to keep that part of the incident hidden at this stage.<<

GS -

I agree that the intelligence agencies know more about interrogation than you or me. So I've been very interested to read the many articles by former members of our intelligence agencies which have said that torture does NOT yield better information in general, and that it didn't in some of the specific cases here. Some of those articles have been posted right here on this board.

As for waterboarding not being torture because its effects are purely psychological, that's just not a valid standard. Lasting injury does not necessarily result from all kinds of torture.

Once again, I will remind you that the United States has prosecuted foreign officers for torture because they waterboarded our soldiers. And yes, I do believe that the US military would torture its own solders as part of their training, if the specific goal of the training was to enable them to withstand torture.

I note that Christopher Hitchens didn't believe waterboarding was torture, and to prove it had himself subjected to it. He concluded that if it isn't torture, nothing is.

- Allen
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