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To: Cogito who wrote (109831)	4/26/2009 11:17:59 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (3) of 541467

Hitchens makes the point without understanding he did, by subjecting himself to water boarding. If it were truly torture, he wouldn't have subjected himself to it. Can you name another form of "torture" a writer would willingly subject themselves to? The very nature of torture is to avoid it at all costs. Sure, he got scared. Probably for the first time in his aristocratic upbringing he actually had to experience a tough as nails event, both psychologically and emotionally. In regard to whether torture works. I suspect there are different opinions in the intelligence community on the value of it, and it would be more difficult for someone to publicly acknowledge its value, rather than tow the party line with the PC crowd running things these days. Let me clarify - I'm not for torture. I just don't think water boarding clearly falls into the torture manifesto. I think it's a gray area, depending on the methods involved and the safety procedures put in place. I don't believe the U.S. military would torture soldiers in order to prepare them for battle. That's just silly Allen. The American people wouldn't support its armed forces and no one would voluntarily enlist if they thought they would be tortured during training. I would rather er on the side of giving our intelligence agencies the tools they believe are necessary to keep America safe. I can accept the rare use of water boarding, under certain circumstances. One being to find and capture the murderers who perpetuated the acts on 9/11. I certainly won't lose any sleep knowing a scum like Abu Zubaydah was water boarded. The hard left and those inclined to suffer from BDS can cry all the tears they want. I think it's a losing issue for Obama to look back on and attempt to prosecute those who kept America safe right after 9/11. However, I suspect the George Soros operatives and Democrat Underground will probably keep pushing for it. These things will add up though. And eventually the American public will come to see the spiteful nature of the Obama PC crowd running things. First the Homeland Secretary labels returning vets as a threat, and now the White House goes after the CIA. I suppose the FBI and Police are next. The teenagers running things need to understand actions have consequences. I hope the consequences of de-fanging the people fighting the war on terror are not grave.

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