Sounds like civil war in Iran
Serious Non-Civil Disobedience? Plus Video of the Massive Demonstration at Mousavi Rally
Update: Vid of Regime's Basij Thugs Beating a Protester to Death
The size of this is pretty impressive. Definitely watch to get a sense of how emboldened the resisters are.
Even a BBC reporter is impressed:
I just came away from the protest. It was an incredible sight. A huge crowd, hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions of people there in defiance of open threats from the government that they should not assemble.
They have opened fire, that is going to really ratchet up this, it could be frankly a huge political mistake for those running this country.
--Jon Leyne of the BBC Reporting from Tehran
There are reports of the resisters doing more than civil disobedience. Which is awesome. This regime isn't going to back down due to mere protests.
I'm bolding the parts that suggest the the resisters are growing in courage and power, and the tyrants are diminishing in the same.
Shots have been fired during a massive rally in Iran against last week's presidential election results, with reports saying one person was killed. Hundreds of thousands rallied to support candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, but a group of them was fired on from a militia base they had surrounded.
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He says the vote was fixed - a claim President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies.
He dropped the f-bomb. Seems significant in its boldness.
The BBC's Jon Leyne, in Tehran, says Monday's rally was the biggest demonstration in the Islamic republic's 30-year history and described it as a "political earthquake".
It was an incredible sight. A huge crowd, hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions of people there in defiance of open threats from the government that they should not assemble.
The security forces were staying well away - we were even able to film and usually the secret police come in straight away and stop you. But the crowds were so enormous they were stepping back. As we drove out we saw rows of riot police stationed on the highway.
If they have opened fire, that is going to really ratchet up this, it could be frankly a huge political mistake for those running this country.
The government had outlawed any protest following two days of unrest, with the interior ministry warning that "any disrupter of public security would be dealt with according to the law".
Which means the resisters are currently breaking the tyrant's law without consequence, which only can serve to encourage them.
It's not only tyrants who find weakness provocative -- democrats and liberals (classical senses) find them provocative too.
Despite this, correspondents said riot police had been watching the rally during the afternoon and had seemed to be taking no action.
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A photographer at the scene told news agencies that security forces had killed one protester and seriously wounded several others. A man is said to have been arrested over the shooting.
Why was he arrested (assuming he was arrested)? Arrested for carrying out the will of the state? If this is true it suggests the mad mullahs are afraid to retaliate.
This is big:
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He said the shooting began when the crowd attacked a compound used by a religious militia linked to the country's powerful Revolutionary Guard.
North of Tehran, in an area better controlled by the mad mullahs, they're actively hunting down protesters, the article reports. (Or rather reports that there are reports of such.) Even so: That is control of certain areas, and apparent loss of control over others. Not a good sign for a regime that relies upon terror to maintain its power.
Thanks to DanF.
Just as personal point, when I started this blog I linked a lot of protests in Iran. I read a lot into the Zorasterian fire-celebrations (outlawed by the government0 as indicating some loss of control of the mullahs.
Obviously those hopes were unfounded. I gave up on Iran after a while believing the mullahs would never be forced out of power by popular pressure.
In this case... well, this seems like a very serious threat to the mullah's power indeed.
"That File is Shut Forever:" Why should Obama even hedge his bets? Achmadinejad just declared he has no interest at all in negotiating away his precious nukes:
Confrontation of some kind, though, is looking more likely no matter what the administration may wish. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declared in his “victory” speech over the weekend that he will never negotiate with anyone over his regime’s nuclear weapons. “That file is shut forever,” he said.
Poll: Most Americans Think Obama's a Mewling Sissyboy: "Not tough enough" on Iran and North Korea, at least.
Most Americans -- including majorities of Democrats, Republicans and independents -- say President Obama has not been tough enough on North Korea and Iran.
A FOX News poll released Monday finds more than two-thirds of Americans say Obama has not been tough enough on North Korea (69 percent), while some 15 percent think his actions have been "about right" and 3 percent think he has been too tough.
Sizable majorities of Democrats (65 percent), Republicans (78 percent) and independents (61 percent) agree Obama should be tougher on North Korea. Among those voters who backed Obama in the 2008 presidential election, 59 percent say he has not been tough enough.
Thanks to DrewM.
Counter-Evidence: The tyrants are going down with at least some fight. Although they may have ceded some thuggish sovereignty against huge masses of people, they're still wiling to beat the hell out of -- and the life out of -- protesters who don't have sufficient numbers on their side.
This may not really be counter-evidence of general weakening of the regime. As the BBC report pointed out, in some areas the government is "hunting down" protesters.
14 clips compiled by Breitbart of the spiraling violence.
Question: Will NBC call upon its experts to declare Iran in a state of "civil war"?
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