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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster

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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (13919)6/18/2009 11:46:35 AM
From: pompsander  Read Replies (1) of 103300
 
LOL.....The ODS on the thread is getting a bit thick this morning.

Don't forget George Bush chocked on a potatoe <g> chip and blacked out. Shall we disparage his toughness?

Obama's cautious tone on Iran is completely appropriate. And, yes, I would say exactly the same thing if a republican were in office.

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Julian Sanchez makes a good point:

[The Obama administration would] probably have more instruments for gentle pressure if we weren’t already totally disengaged from Iran—the trouble with making a big show of utterly shunning bad regimes is that you’ve got nowhere to go when there’s a propitious occasion to give them a nudge in a healthier direction—but for all we know they’re doing other similarly subtle, unobtrusive stuff behind the scenes. It’s almost as if they’re more concerned with what actually contributes to human rights in Iran than with what provides the best fap-fodder for hawks at home. Crazy.

There has been speculation that this uprising will produce a windfall of information and defectors for the CIA should the government crack down further. There is much that can be done in the shadows.
andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

A fascinating interview with professor David Menashri, Director of the Center for Iranian Studies and Dean of Special Programs at Tel Aviv University. Money quote:

Pulse: What will this mean to President Obama's proposed dialogue with Iran?

Menashri: Since Mr. Obama made his offer of dialogue when Ahmadinejad was president, the fact that he has been re-elected per-se should not necessarily cause second thoughts. However, the basis of legitimacy that Ahmadinejad had until one week ago is definitely not the same as he has today. Washington is now facing a President whose election is called into question by the children of the revolution themselves. It should be also remembered, that these are people who were indirectly encouraged by the emergence to the presidency of Barack H. Obama last November and adopted his call: "Yes We Can." This spirit of "Obamaism" made the radical regime scared and concerned and gave the reformist elements heart and encouragement. Given the developments of the last few days, the proposed Washington dialogue with Iran is more problematic than it was a week ago and Mr. Obama will have to carefully calculate his policy vis-à-vis Iran.

andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com
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