Fred a post I made back in June seems quite timely, perhaps even more so now.
I WONDER WHAT PSYCO-PATHOLOGY OUR PHILIDELPHIA LAWYER WILL DIAGNOSE?
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To: +Rob Taylor (5081 )
From: +Rick
Thursday, Jun 12 1997 8:58PM EST
Reply #5088
Rob,
I am going to use the closing of your post as an excellent point of my beginning a
response to your post.
>>>I realize these comments may not be received in the tone in which
>>>they were intended, (that is one of honestly trying to use and
>>>understand your input), but they are sincere and meant to add to
>>>the usefullness of this thread. Until your comments are made so
>>>that I can follow (and use) them, I will continue to use the
>>>"next" button liberally. Please be more direct.
Quite the contrary Rob I both perceive and received your comments in the spirit you
describe. In fact there can be no greater compliment or showing of both honesty and
sincerity than for someone to say that they are "honestly trying to use and understand
your input". Such a spirit is an fine foundation for real communication. I thank you for
that. I hope that my response will be received in the same spirit, as I try to directly hit
every point you have raised. While you are free to use that "next" button at any
moment let me start with the suggestion that if others had done that, you might feel less
of a need to do so.
>>>Rick, Even paranoids have enemies.
I have often said much the same thing. While I don't believe I am paranoid I see no
need to set myself out as a martyr either. That will accomplish very little in my
estimation because I see nothing comparable to a great religious or political cause
inherent in CCEE. ONLY MONEY possibly yours.
>>>I'm sure you feel you are providing a service here,
Hardly, If I was providing a service I would feel compelled to charge for it. Rather I
am merely an observer and limited participant in what has become a fascinating
project.
>>>and you probably have factual information which would
>>>help to clarify some of what has taken place with CCC
>>>management and how the company has and is acting.
>
>>>What would make your input more useful to my limited
>>>intelligence would be for you to abandon your didactic
>>>style and state what you know and why it is factual.
"Didactic" that is a somewhat familiar word by now. AUNTIE FAITH used to use it a
lot about me. It can be a horrible sounding indictment can't it. The truth is (and Ginger
could help us here I am sure) Websters defines it as: "1.a: designed or intended to
teach b: intended to convey instruction and information as well as pleasure and
entertainment." What is so bad about that?
In fact it makes the attacks seem as ridiculous and self serving of the purposes of the
attackers as they really are. Actually the indictment nature of the term (didactic) had its
origin here at the earliest stage of my arrival when I was very direct about some
observations vis-a vis the company and let drop some hint that I might be some kind of
a teacher. Immediately to silence the substance of what I tried to inject into the dialog
here were attacks on me personally for daring to "teach" people what they already
"knew", didn't want to "learn" and sure as hell didn't want me to teach to them. Thus
we were off on the "teacher" wars and the teacher jokes for days. This of course ties
to what you say next:
>>>I truthfully cannot follow your direction because
>>>you tend to jump from thought to thought without
>>>any closure.
>
I could not agree with you more. Now do two things: 1 look at the history of the
thread since my arrival, and 2. Ask yourself WHY is it that every time "Rick" tries to
get a discussion relating to substantive CCEE related issues that the subject is changed
to attacks upon and discussion OF "Rick"????? Of course the answer to that question
also relates to what I find disturbing here.
>>>We have been on such topics as who and why the tennants
>>>in the building with CCC are there and what their relationship
>>>might be for over 4 months. Since you are trying to lead some
>>>of the readers through documents which appear to be public,
>>>wouldn't it be more productive to simply say what is on your mind?
In a word Rob---NO!--That is not the voice of obstinacy speaking it is the voice of
experience speaking. The voice of experience HERE for several months. There is an
element of school gang psychology here that is pandered to, to stifle any direct
discussion of "forbidden" areas. Of course anything that Auntie Faith perceives as
"NEGATIVITY" is "forbidden". So I have slowly and painstakingly worked through
the new kid on the block syndrome. I have met and beat every bully on the block and
sent them home with their bloody noses and many have NEVER come back (perhaps
that is to THEIR credit), because others like Auntie Faith although she keeps coming ,
keeps getting seen through like glass, and keeps destroying herself has not the sense to
give it a rest. That is I suppose one definition of job dedication, --but dedication to
what purpose?? You might say I am a professional "hangman" but all I do is give out
rope and wait.
In fact it is most interesting that this latest barrage of subject changing attacks is
partially in response to my recent post to Bob Stone who was one of my earlier
"anti-teacher" detractors who now some six months later and some FIFTY MILLION
OR SO SHARES MORE OR LESS UNLEASHED ON THE MARKET announced
that he had finally learned that "two plus two equals four" :
exchange2000.com
Now HOW or why he finally "learned" that I have no way of knowing except that it is
one of those things that I tried to be very direct about (what was happening and what
effect it would likely have) when I first arrived on the thread. At any rate he did finally
"learn" albeit the hard way.
>>>I really don't believe some "hit man" would track you down
>>>for saying the truth. I tend to think if anyone really wanted
>>>to find you, it wouldn't requrie more than an inquiry with the
>>>right amount of cash to the right people to produce results.
>
Well Rob, the history of the world is replete with numerous examples of people
painting bullseyes on the truth and its messengers and as I said I see no inherent value
associated with CCEE to justify martyrdom. However there is a more pragmatic
motivation at work here. New and younger, better educated, and more sophisticated
generations are discovering that there is no need to soil ones hands or spirits with baser
things like prostitution, gambling, extortion, or loan sharking. The "markets" are even
more fertile toiling fields, and the internet delivers countless rubes at rates unimagined
by earlier generations who were forced to await their arrival by bus. Thus you merely
need take a sum as insignificant as three cents a share times one of those 2-4-6 or
EIGHT MILLION SHARE HYPED UP RALLIES that have occurred since I have
been here to see that there is sufficient monetary motivation to silence me. Although to
date they have looked, new technology has allowed them to both look right at me and
see nothing, as well as think they were looking at me only to discover that there was
nothing there. What is funny is that the search they started is what started the scrutiny
they abhor. Moreover if and when they do find me they will feel something akin to an
infantryman who after crossing the field of battle and jumping into the enemy foxhole
with a war hoop, finds that he has jumped right into the mouth of a big cannon.
Although I have covered everything you said Rob let me close with this. THEY have
created a situation which is the cause of the impossibility of granting the request that
you made for directness. They have made a false issue of CREDIBILITY that has
thwarted my early attempts to set out facts and discuss them. Thus they have in a very
calculated way limited those who will learn to those few who are willing to look in the
dark corners I propose to shine a flashlight into. The reason for this is that it is human
nature that some people only believe the truth they discover for themselves and most
only believe that when they pay dearly for the lesson learned. Hit your next button if
you must, but many will return here when the tears and knashing of teeth begins and
then they will SEE CLEARLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING. |
