re: ["You are right, the right has organized and their intention is to hijack any kind of open discussion on health care."]
Mark, you can't possibly believe that?
Obama's poll numbers have collapsed faster than any US President in history, actually surpassing the collapse of the Jimmy Carter Presidency, and we all know how that turned out for America.
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"Gallup and Rasmussen Reports have him with less than 50 percent job approval, with majorities disapproving of his handling of his two signature issues, the economy and health care."
What don't you understand about this?

These Town Halls are mom and pops from Main Street. If you watch the videos it's mainly people in their 60's who are going to be directly effected by nationalized health care, and who are worried.
The liberal media has now switched from open bias, to becoming an activist arm of the administration, even encouraging people to turn in blog sites, and individual emails to the government.
Markus Wolf would be oh so proud!
They tried to do this with the Tea Parties.
Anyone who saw the large media covered Tea Party rallies in Texas and California, saw as many women, and children present as men. And they came from every walk of life.
The entire Tea Party movement started with grass roots Ron Paul supporters. I've been to 4 Tea Parties in the Midwest, and never saw a single bus of anyone getting shipped in, or anything other than individual, every day Americans who are tired of being looted and lied to.
Look at the videos, do these people look like an "Astro Turf" or, "Dockers" brigade made up of inside the beltway politicos?
Fwiw, the AARP sold out, and has supported the Health Care plan, but look at how many people over age 55 are in these crowds. There wasn't a damn bus in the parking lot, these were individual Main Street, everyday Americans who are going to be directly affected by the plan.
They're fighting for their rights and control over their own health, because their elected politicians sold them out.
Do these people...
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Look like these people?
msnbc.msn.com
Talk about a leap!
Hell yes, that was a Republican politico raid on the Florida recount.
Right out of the Mayor Daley Chicago Democratic machine school of vote early, and vote often politics.
But, to compare what we are seeing break out spontaneously all across America to Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris using Daley style Chicago politics to steal the 2000 election is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
Sure, there are organized groups on both sides. How about ACORN and the numerous George Soros groups?
You people are way, way too emotionally invested in this.
Are you really willing to suspend all rational thinking, all semblance of truth, and sell out your children's future and your own health, just to win?
When Rachel Maddow makes insane comparisons like this, it destroys her future credibility on important issues. I actually kind of like Maddow. She showed me some integrity when she broke bad on Obama selling out America, and adopting Bush's anti-privacy, and pro-torture policies.
But with this comparison, she's coming off as ridiculous as did Janeane Garofalo with her "tea bagging racists" comment.
If you want an emotional outlet, the evidence is now out on literal War Crimes being committed, including Cheney's Hit Teams, and sodomizing little boys in front of their mothers in Iraq during interrogations. Pictures, and testimony exist. Set up another Nuremberg Trial for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and anyone else you deem guilty, and tell me where to sent a contribution check.
Why hasn't Obama went after the War Criminals like he promised?
Why hasn't he went after NAFTA like he promised?
Why is he expanding the War, instead of bringing the troops home like he promised?
Why did he have Geithner and Summers float trial balloons on a coming middle class tax hike, when he promised he wouldn't raise ANY taxes on the middle class?
...I guess Cap & Trade taxes aren't taxes either?
Why is he bum rushing bill, after bill through Congress, after he promised he would end that, and post every bill in it's entirety online, in public, for at least five days before any vote?
Why did he load his administration with lobbyists, when he promised otherwise?
Why did he allow all those earmarks when he promised he wouldn't?
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Main Street America is mad as hell and they are NOT going to take it any more. And in case you haven't noticed, they're shouting down Republican and Democratic incumbents alike. And there's a hell of a lot off pissed of Democrats too.
-- Home values are still collapsing.
-- Job losses are still rising.
-- The markets are still down -40%
-- Pension plans are going broke and 1/3rd of employers have stopped matching 401K contributions.
-- State and local governments are going bankrupt.
-- And stimulus money went to bigger government, and pork not jobs. $1,000 given to the bankers for every $1 spent on actual stimulus so far. 1,000:1 And you wonder why people are pissed?
Politicians from BOTH parties continue to look right into the teleprompter and tell us lie, after lie, after lie, right to our faces. And you wonder why they're being shouted down?
Only a complete and total fool, would deny that this is a massive grassroots uprising.
SOTB
PS: I have a friend who's a history buff and a die hard, life long Democrat. He's not happy with Obama and is worried about what's unfolding.
About a week ago he jokingly told me he's going to take his Obama bumper sticker off his car and quit defending Obama at work... because after reading a book about WW II, he found out the French Resistance didn't go after the Nazi's first, they went after the Nazi sympathizers who sold out their country.
I thought he was joking. Funny thing, he came over to my house last evening and the bumper sticker was gone.
Food for thought. |