<Where I disagree is when you claim that everything is "nothing more than your subjective reality" >
Well, feel free to disagree and discuss of course! Of course, based on discussion so far (your strange 'logic 101' attempt at "gottcha" below, I don't expect much.
<You just lamely throw out relativism as an answer any time you are challenged,>
Actually, you haven't challenged much of anything. You lash out when you dont' understand what I'm talking about OR when you don't know how to disagree and discuss. Let's give an example that everyone on this thread have seen virtually every time you argue... misrepresenting folks, taking them out of context, AND actually putting YOUR meaning (even extra words) into what THEY are saying, then refuting it. Really lame; continuing the discussion about truth vs reality, in this latest post:
<<You claimed to "actually" know a truth about God but then turn around and attack me for knowing something about God.>>
Actually, as usual those are YOUR words, and your interpretation... here's how it went:
ME:
"Actually, only god knows the absolute truth. Therefore everyone elses "truth" (their reality) IS actually only their subjective reality."
You:
""Are you are claiming to know that absolutely? If you are; then your statement is self defeating. if not; then it's meaningless. ""
Me:
""Of course it's not meaningless, that's exactly the 'avoidance' scheme that you claim of others while YOU partake in it... only this time it's ALL IN ONE POST! Pretty funny.""compared to Gods truth, or ANY ULTIMATE truth, my AND YOUR "truth" is simply our (radically subjective) reality, period. snip- "compared to Gods truth, or ANY ULTIMATE truth, my AND YOUR "truth" is simply our (radically subjective) reality, period."
{note, I never claimed to know any absolute truth... IN FACT, it's clear from my origional above that I don't think ANYONE knows ANY absolute truth.}
You:
""You are making an absolute claim to know that: "only god knows the absolute truth."""
Either forgetting or having not comprehended what I was even talking about, you once again insert YOUR version of others information!!! You can't seem to remember what we're even talking about! How can I claim absolute truth when I just got done saying everything I think and say is just my subjective reality???
I'm sure folks on this thread are used to this type of (what I'm sure you think is air tight logic) circular misunderstanding of basic logic... actually the only thing that seems air tight is your brain.
<You have had a bee in your bonnet ever since I pointed out that you can't be a Pantheist and Christian, and that the Christian religion logically entails the worship of a Personal God.>
Good point... although it has nothing to do with my religiousity... or as you know lack of it in many cases... it has to do with your need to judge others by theirs (or lack of)... to such an extent they you go way off topic (on evolution thread) trying to pretend others beliefs aren't in line with.... well with YOURS, but you act like it's actually with God.
DAK |
