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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (25205)9/10/2009 1:11:28 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water  Read Replies (1) of 36918
 
Woosh. I'm not holding up my end of the conversation here very well. Lots of extraneous stuff going on in my life now--extricating myself from a real estate transaction, getting ready for a scheduled medical procedure next week--all this is keeping me from doing the really important stuff--like talking with you about climate change. (G)

First of all I think you necessarily must change the terminology with respect to the climate analysis you are labeling a "model". It certainly may be accurate and working, but without some physical representation (on paper, computer screen) I don't think model is the appropriate term. If no one else has access to it how can it model anything?

Secondly, if you believe in its efficacy write it down so that fellow travelers on this road, or better yet in the appropriate departments in Universities can have a go at it.

If I understand anything about science its that the whole idea is to get one's results out there so fellow scientists can have a go at it. Such is how we have reached this sorry state of civilization (G).

Third, we're kind of dead in the water reference this discussion until I can pull up some Hansen links for you (or if you're not pressed maybe you can see what you can do in this regard). I don't think Hansen's model or any climatology model can predict WHEN a volcano can erupt. What they can do, to the best of my knowledge, is predict future effects based on assumptions or data about what is in the atmosphere. Call it "tweaking" if you will but all modeling involves tweaking.

Well that's all for now. We will see what the morrow brings.
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