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Politics : Evolution

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To: LLCF who wrote (2993)9/10/2009 8:32:09 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) of 69300
 
Let me ask you... do YOU think all her needs are met below the top?

The bottom two absolutely. As for self-esteem, she has way too much self-esteem. As for love/belonging, no one but her or someone close to her would know. So that would put her pretty close to the top looking at her objectively.

Course I think the heirarchy is baloney. IOW there isn't any heirarchy that she's near the top of.

Just take the love/belonging box and the physiological box - there is plenty of evidence of people sacrificing themselves to save loved ones - why would anyone do that if the heirarchy is really accurate? Clearly the willingness of people to sacrifice their physiological needs for loved ones shows love/belonging is often stronger than hunger and fear. But that conflicts with the heirarchy.

As for self-actualization, what is the definition?

The examples given at your link are all artists of some sort. It says "When all of the foregoing needs are satisfied, then and only then are the needs for self-actualization activated."

That would mean great artists, musicians all have their lower needs all met or they wouldn't be great self-actualized artists. But we know thats not true - look at all the great artists that have turned to drug abuse and shortened their lives or have simply ruined their families lives, broken up their marriages and abandoned their children. Clearly they were able to be self-actualized while still having all sorts of other needs unsatisfied.

Ergo the heirarchy idea is nonsense.

Think about the things I've just written and tell me you really believe there's a heirarchy of needs operating with people.
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why aren't YOU self actualized?

Who's to say I'm not? Or that you aren't? Or anyone else for that matter. The definition of self-actualization is so vague, who can say who is. Can it really be only the great musicians, painters, poets are "self-actualized"?

Frankly, I don't that there is any such thing as self-actualization.

There's doing things you enjoy and are good at. And generally you get good at things by practice and enjoyment may drive one to practice.

Dont' get my "name calling" intention wrong. When in Rome, do as the Romans. Your level of communication is SO LOW that name calling fits right in.

Other than remarking on liberal argumentation, what names have I called you here?
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