>>The booing has always been part of the speech. "You lie" is a bridge too far.<<
not if you think the president is lying and is effectively 85% of bush's 3rd term.
unlimited money to banks, sanctioned securities fraud, mark to myth (something the bushevics wouldn't even do!), indefinite detention, further escalation of war, using fear to control people, and spewing constant lies about what he's doing and is going to do.
oh, and 98% cheney on drugs...
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as well as health care for corporatists.
>>Did you see the 9/12 march? Did you count all the non-white people on no fingers?<<
i didn't see the march. i've seen pictures and it looked like lots of folks were there. i know some african americans were there, too.
where they "uncle toms," knighty? doing the bidding of their white masters?
or are their legitimate concerns that america is heading into bankruptcy with a democratic currently leading the charge?
>>Obama wants to play down the racism in America,<<
i agree for the most part.
>>but it is there, loud and clear, as it always has been.<<
absolutely. and it crushes the spirits of people. real racism, anyway. calling a scheming, lying, thieving president a liar is a p*ss poor example, imho. it does a disservice to *real* racism that impacts the lives of millions.
>>And we know it is more hate than racism, as it isn't just a black/white issue. I know people who call Jewish Americans "the enemy." I know more than a few who hate Mexican Americans, even those who had relatives born here when the USA stole the Southwest and West. On the East Coast, Puerto Ricans are well loved. The non-mainstream media is stoking all of that hate, but they didn't create it.<<
i think most people want to feel special and it is a whole lot easier to try and squish the next person instead of actually getting off one's *ss and doing something special.
wilson may be the biggest racist in the world, but his "you lie" comment, imho, doesn't prove it. tempers are flaring in this country the regular people are being locked in steerage and the banking / military industrial complex, pharma elite are being put out on the usa titanics life boats.
this is an absolutely certainty in my mind - and i hope i'm wrong.
in the meantime, 35 million people are on food stamps - and many of those are minorities and their situation has *nothing* to do with wilson's "you lie" comment.
fresno's farming community is shut down effectively to save the delta smelt - and you know as well as i do that obama himself would shoot each and every one of them out of the water if it was required to keep goldman sachs solvent.
what percentage of minorities work for goldman sachs? what percentage of minorities live in poverty?
oh, obama has money for the white man. ok, he's racist, right? helping rich whitey and forking over minorities.
nope, he's just a plain old narcissistic, sociopath politician that only understand the concept of his perceived self interest.
sometimes it is race. there is a reason why the wealth of african american family is about a single digit fraction of the wealth of the average white family.
issues that can help alleviate that situation are worth discussing. using racism allegations as a cheap way to gain political advantage and shut the other side up or else they'll be called racists is not very useful, imho. it might feel good on an emotional level, but it isn't useful.
the much bigger issue than "you lie" is why the president, regardless of color, gets to blatantly lie through his teeth with impunity and empty the treasury to feed a bunch of wall street gangsters (who happen to be primarily white guys - and the worst kind of humans around).
i think the african americans want to know why *their* portion of the treasury has been looted in this manner a whole helluva lot more than why some congress person yelled out "you lie" to a president who was lying through his teeth.
let's talk about that - something that *really* matters.
i am quite sure that the poorest people in this country will be hit the very hardest when obama and crew (or his successor, regardless of party) breaks the bank wide open to feed the oligarchs and this country fiscally implodes.
but hey, watching one's family starve in the street is worth calling old wilson a racist for yelling out "you lie" to an unrepentant, bold faced liar that is the current point man for looting the treasury.
"we must pay as we go."
"no tax payer money to bail out bankers."
"i won't sign bills with earmarks."
"lobbyists won't run my white house."
"lobbyist meeting will be on cspan fo rall to see."
"gitmo will be closed."
"the health care bill is free."
"the banks are solvent."
"the may be recession over."
and on and on and on...
it is far easier to count the times he tells the truth.
i'd assert that if you are OK with "your guy" lying through his teeth all the time, then you have ZERO standing to complain when someone you disagree with lies all the time. |
