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Politics : Formerly About Applied Materials
AMAT 262.92+0.4%Dec 29 3:59 PM EST

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To: davesd who wrote (10066)10/30/1997 5:15:00 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (3) of 70976
 
As far as over capacity...margins at TSMC and UMC are dropping, I suspect that it is because there is enough capacity out there and customers are demanding lower rates. In times of low capacity...the foundry's set the prices and get high margins

dave,
many of your posts have a decidedly bearish tone to them. Do you really think we are going into another downturn? We are two quarters into the current one. I heard LRCX say that DRAM producers were pulling in equipment for the next generation. I've seen capacity utilization numbers in the range of 86%. NVLS says that things are looking good and none of their asian customers have cancelled orders. KLAC beat EPS forecasts by 12% recently. AMAT has people working OT to fill orders and has 2300 jobs posted. I could go on and on. The bear side has the fact that the HK currency is weakening and interest rates are spiking. That's it. To my knowledge, AMAT does not derive a significant protion of its revs from HK. Please fill me in on the bear side and why you are so down on the equips. We are on the verge of the largest upgrade in semiconductor history and people are bearish?? Unless people stop using computers, driving cars, and making toast, I cannot possibly imagine why ANYONE would be bearish on the equips at these levels. AMAT is currently trading at ~14.85 next years consensus. This for a company which should see growth in excess of 30% for the coming years. Where were you when the stock was $54??

BK
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