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Politics : American Presidential Politics and foreign affairs
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To: RMF who wrote (37697)10/8/2009 10:57:50 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 71588
 
Re: O.K., so you were only talking "hypothetically" about "redrawing" the lines that had been set previously.

A thought experiment, yes.

(When all currently considered options appear to lead, whether 'quickly' or 'slowly', to failure... then it's a good time to try thinking outside the box... and widen the options under consideration, the degrees of freedom allowed in the discussion.)

Re: "If we could just get all the Pashtuns back together they'd be O.K.?"

Maybe yes, maybe no... but things would be CONSIDERABLY different. Both for Pakistan and for Afghanistan and for the very large and populous Pastun tribe itself that is at the heart of all this conflict. (The *possibility* of a different outcome, one other then failure for the US effort, might increase. After all... much of the entire Taleban movement can simply be seen as an extension of the Centuries-long Pastun nationalist drive for self-rule or for their own nation-state.)

Re: "I don't see that happening short of a nuclear war between Pakistan and India. After that it could be a possibilty."

(The Durand Line --- drawn by the British Colonialists to keep the local tribes weak and more easily controlled by their Colonialist masters --- lies between Afghanistan and Pakistan... not between Pakistan and India.)

Re: "I think the Afghans would just like to be able to live their lives without the fear of being killed everyday."

Sure! (Wouldn't most everybody?) But I'm sure they also would prefer to be in charge of their own lives, their own development....
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