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To: axial who wrote (32029)	11/11/2009 9:28:09 AM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) of 46821

The universe is made of energy: <in a short time your traffic management problems will be solved by the high cost of energy.> The cost of turning carbon into fuel is something under $100 a barrel and I guess more like $50 a barrel [in 2008 dollars rather than this year's heavily diluted variety]. With vehicles becoming more efficient, that's not much of a disincentive to travel. By "turning carbon into fuel", I mean coal, tarry Orinoco and Athabasca, shale, and carbon agricultural crops which could be half food half power station fuel [seeds for food and cellulose for fuel]. That includes CO2 sequestering because those fuels could be burned in power stations with liquid CO2 collected and piped 500 metres under oceans to remain in liquid form. Or into old mines and oil and gas reservoirs to displace more fuel. But carbon sequestering might not be needed in which case costs would be 25% lower. After 100 years of CO2 emissions there's little evidence of the dreaded Global Warming. I have argued for 22 years that reglaciation is the only risk because we have reached the maxima for interglacial ice withdrawal and desert formation [near enough]. Contrary to popular myth, climate is not just not in balance and stable, but oscillates [as do so many natural processes]. That oscillation is caused by expansion and contraction of deserts, snow and clouds [high reflectivity] and plants and oceans [high light absorption]. Nature is not a happy well-meaning process dedicated to a pleasant life style and steady weather. It's a hideously cruel and barbaric realm bent on killing everything. So far it has succeeded for a billion years, with those fauna and flora lucky enough and capable of doing so escaping the maw for long enough to provide the next generation of challengers. Carbon is the basis for that life and people have resurrected a tiny proportion of that which was once alive and happily part of the ecosphere, looking for dinner and mates. Fossil fuels are being recycled back to life. More CO2 is a good thing. Plants like it. They had been reduced to homeopathic amounts of CO2. People have slightly improved the situation. Apart from carbon there are photovoltaic and other means of collecting sun energy and turning it into vehicle movement. Then there's fusion - that would be a LOT of energy if they get it going economically. Simple efficiency and vehicle technology improvements makes a huge difference too. It doesn't require 2 tons of steel burning fuel at traffic lights to move 70kg of human around town. Much of the movement is unnecessary with alternatives available to achieve the same thing - such as click in cyberspace to move documents, or use tax-free taxis for one way trips instead of return journeys. With $150 oil, the stampede into making mega$bucks is huge, with every man and his dog getting into the energy business and coming up with swarms of methods of getting a piece of the action. People also burn a lot less. So we already know the maximum price for energy. Mqurice

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