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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (271546)11/18/2009 12:45:20 PM
From: cnyndwllr2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Hawkmoon, one of your justifications for spending treasure we don't have and sending our young men and women to die is that you:

"don't know of any other alternative except to be involved and to help shape results. Because if we're NOT involved, the results are pretty clear.. Eventually the religious fanaticism, and willingness to maim, murder and die in the name of Allah will cause the moderates to flee, or leave them enslaved.

That was in response to my pointing out that "YOU can't give them a culture of justice nor can you create a willingness to fight and die for freedom in the hearts of the 'moderate' Middle Easterners you so often pimp as your supporters."

You're way off base. The ugly truth is that if you have a majority of moderates who are not willing to fight and die in order to prevent their being governed by men willing to "maim, murder and die in the name of Allah" then the cure is not for us to kill and die for them. The cure is for them to be ruled by those ugly, violent rulers until the day they are no longer "moderates."

When the violence of their rulers has changed them from moderates to freedom fighters, or some other form of "change" fighters willing to fight and die themselves, then that's the day when we can "help" them fight their own battles. Until then we need to stay the hell out of it because it's a waste of lives to send men to fight battles that too few of those we're fighting for will fight themselves.

Think about that. Ed
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