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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: epicure who wrote (125196)11/20/2009 6:17:41 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water  Read Replies (3) of 542688
 
Whew. One thing that does come through to me from your argument(s) is that science and its methodology is very important to you. And , I think, you would also argue to humans--as a species.

Let me try to clarify what I am saying.

1. The acceptance of Science depends on human cultural norms (inasmuch as science can only be useful and relevant to humans if it gains cultural acceptance--think maybe the historical period 1200-1850 AD roughly as this acceptance period in the West although I am aware that forms of science pre-existed this period in pre AD time).

2. This acceptance, or lack thereof, does not in anyway diminish the "reality" that can be revealed by science. It's there whether we accept it or not.

You're arguments, if I understood them correctly, speak to a state of human culture that HAS ALREADY made science one of its cultural norms, but not yet a dominant one. IMHO, the human cultural norms of this era are in fact in conflict, over which cultural norm better reflects "reality".

I don't have any problem at all with the descriptive list of benefits you have provided of what science entails and provides. I am just saying that the human culture first has to support it as one of its norms before that can happen.

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