So you admire people like Stalin, Hitler, Lenin because they were fiscal conservatives willing to impose rationing after they destroyed efficient delivery mechanisms?
They say you can tell when a discussion has passed the silly threshold when someone brings up Hitler. If you can't stay on point, I can't help you.
Where have I proposed to force Medicare and Medicare into bankruptcy?
You haven't propose to do that directly. By disallowing rationing you have effectively proposed a course that would inevitably lead to bankruptcy. It's indirect, but the effect is the same. Proposing disallowing rationing is effectively proposing forcing the public programs into bankruptcy.
Now explain why this means all Americans should be forced into a rationed system that would most likely eliminate the option for self payment. (If not at first then soon after.)
I can't possibly explain that. You'd have to ask someone who advocates forcing all Americans into a public system. That's not me. I only support rationing for extant public systems. Right now that includes several. If the public option prevails, there will be one more.
While you are at it you can explain when belief in personal responsibility ceased to be mainstream and in your opinion became fringe.
I'm not sure just what the status of that is. It's in flux, for sure, but where it will land, dunno. I think we're a ways away, though, from personal responsibility being fringe. In the minority, perhaps, but not fringe.
Only if you assume that healthcare is a right and that the government is obligated to pay for it.
I can't explain that any better than I have. Tim took a good crack at it, I thought, differentiating between the reality of the extant public systems and one's preference for a private system. If neither of those explanations works for you, I guess your cognitive dissonance has won out. You will find some way of tricking yourself so that you can maintain two incompatible positions--your opposition to rationing and your self-image as a fiscal conservative. It's human nature.
Rationing only affects people who won't accept personal responsibility until it is outlawed.
Failing to ration in our public systems affects all of us who have to pay into the treasury for that shortfall. |
