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To: LoneClone who wrote (125998)11/28/2009 11:31:59 AM
From: Umunhum42 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) of 206084
 
Will you guys keep this global warming propaganda, on either side, off this forum

I invest in oil companies because I believe that the ramifications of peak oil are not correctly priced into the market.

I invest in oil sand companies because I believe both Jeff Rubin and Don Coxe are correct in saying that well over half of the world's oil that you can invest in lies in the Canadian Oil Sands and that we should focus on long life reserves in politically secure areas of the world. Right now I have over 50% of my wealth invested in various oil sand companies.

I constantly ask myself, what could go wrong with my oil sand investments? And the biggest threats to my investments are taxes from carbon legislation and the fact that the global warming proponents want to shut down the oil sands completely. And so I couldn't agree more with Kollmhn statement that "Global warming is an economic issue (yes, with politics attached) that is directly linked to cap and trade which couldn't be more relevant to this board."

And if you truly follow this issue, there really isn't a debate going on. On one side you have the skeptics asking for the data to see if they can verify the authors conclusions and on the other side you have people not wanting to give out the data. Anybody that has taken a biology class learned about The Scientific Method:

en.wikipedia.org

Quote - "the scientific method Among other facets shared by the various fields of inquiry is the conviction that the process be objective to reduce biased interpretations of the results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, thereby allowing other researchers the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established."

This is not happening with the Global Warming "science". These released emails confirm everything that the skeptics have been saying for years. That basically the cabal of Global Warming have been falsifying data, not allowing other scientist privy to the data to recreate the models to see if any errors have been made, preventing any opposing view from being published, and then claiming that the science is settled because everyone agrees with them.

A quote from Steve McIntyre:

If climate scientists want to fast track from articles in journals to policy with substantive implications, then they should expect and welcome due diligence wherever it arises.

climateaudit.org

For years I have been subjected to the endless media hype of this fraud. There is even one poster on this board that has the audacity to claim that the average person is too stupid to understand the "science" behind global warming. And yet this same genius can't seem to wrap his arms around the concept of peak oil. I'm sorry to say that I am going to take great pleasure in watching this ship sink!

Paul Driessen explains it far better than I ever could:

Message 26133966

These supposed scientists built their careers and reputations on conjuring datasets, computer models, scenarios and reports – all claiming that modern civilization’s use of hydrocarbons is about to destroy the planet, and all financed by well over $100 billion in US, UK, EU and other taxpayer money.

Realist climate experts have long smelled a rat. The alarmists’ data didn’t match other data. Their models never worked. Their claims of “consensus” and “unprecedented” warming had no basis in fact. Too many grant and publication decisions were decided by which side of the issue someone was on.

Now, finally, the rat has been flushed from its sewer – by a hacker, whistle-blower or someone who carelessly left “secret” files where a website visitor could find them … and reveal them to the world. Now, finally, even the “mainstream” media can no longer ignore or whitewash the scandal.

The stakes are incredibly high. This bogus, biased “science” is being used to justify expensive, intrusive, repressive, abusive treaties, laws and regulations. The new rules would undermine economies, destroy jobs, close down companies and entire industries, impoverish families and communities, roll back personal freedoms and civil rights – and enrich the lucky few whose lobbyists and connections enable them to corner markets for renewable energy technologies, carbon offsets and emissions trading.

For the most destitute people on the planet, the repercussions from this fraud are even higher. These people – 750 million in Africa alone – do not have electricity, cars, modern homes, jobs or hope for a better future. They die by the millions from malnutrition and lung, intestinal and insect-borne diseases that would be dramatically reduced with access to dependable, affordable energy.

But the alarmists’ bogus, biased “science” is being used to justify building a Climate Wall between these desperate people and the modern, energy-rich world. To justify perpetuating misery, disease and death.

Jones, Mann, Briffa, Trenberth, Wigley, IPCC chief Rajenda Pachauri, White House science advisor John Holdren, CRU scientist Tim Osborn, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory researcher Ben Santer and others implicated in this growing scandal should do the honorable thing – and resign their posts. If they refuse, they should be put on paid administrative leave, until every aspect of this collusion and junk science scandal can be thoroughly investigated. Dismissal or other appropriate action should follow.

They should not be allowed to represent their governments or organizations in Copenhagen.

Institutions that received climate alarm grants should be disciplined and removed from future grant conduits, if they knew about these actions – or would have known, had they exercised due diligence.

The entire IPCC and peer review process needs to be repaired. The alarmists and self-appointed censors who have corrupted the system must be replaced with scientists who will ensure honest inquiry and a full airing of all data, hypotheses and perspectives on climate science, economics and policy.

Most importantly, the United States, Britain and all other responsible nations should slam the brakes on every proposed “climate crisis” treaty, agreement, bill, regulatory proposal and endangered species action – until we get to the bottom of this scandal, and determine which data and claims are honest and accurate, which are bogus and unfounded. President Obama should cancel his trip to Copenhagen, and his plans to lobby for a new climate treaty and commit the US to slash its carbon dioxide emissions to a job-killing 17% below 2005 levels by 2020.

It is time to clean out the climate cesspool, and bring integrity, transparency and accountability back to science, law and public policy.
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