Haha, that's a good one Marcos: <a few objective thoughtful dispassionate neutral observers like Gib and i > Unbiased, rational, intelligent too I guess.
Liebensraum/lebensraum... whatever. We won the war and the Germans should use english or american - which, for the most part, they are quite competent at doing.
Regarding ethnic cleansing, in case you haven't heard, there is a very large contingent of uncleansed Arabs still living in Israel. The Jews are either remarkably incompetent at catching them, or contrary to your and Gib's rabid rantings and hideous accusations, they have no intentions of doing so.
Kind of like a gorgeous young woman in a short dress stimulates rape and murder of her = blame the victim: <'Arabs have invaded Israel' - horseshit, it's taking place in Palestine not Europe, from where came shiploads of zionist personnel and materiel starting after 1917 and accelerating in the '40s ... every action since has been stimulated by this invasion>
You mentioned "indigenous thing" - as you mentioned, Jewish right of return people were arriving early last century, buying land from the Ottoman owners. They were arriving the century before that too. I guess you understand that people born there in the 19th century and their descendants are reasonably indigenous. They certainly have no other country to call home.
Hey, I think I might claim right of return too - I have some excellent DNA from that region [I guess judging by various characteristics].
"Our" land is an interesting concept. Fiji has similar problems. A couple of centuries ago, leases were established which expired late in the 20th century. That led to people on "our land" being evicted although they and their ancestors had lived on it for so long.
There are similar issues in NZ.
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