I can only deal with the first portion of your post for now. I'll try to get to the rest of it in subsequent posts.
One of the problems I have in discussing this topic with you greg has to do with 'term contagion.' You use the term world view most frequently to represent A World View (Note the caps). 'A World View' meaning a major ideology of some sort that can be identified and labeled as such, and that meaning can be hung from. This is your 'proper' use of the term. Less formally someone can say they have a view of the world that is such and such without associating that view with one of the 'proper' applications known as 'A World View' ideology.
Why is that a problem? It is a problem because you then attempt to infect or force the meaning of some statement to fit within an inapplicable context, and if that goes, every other concept must follow down that rabbit hole.
For example:
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"That description of reality is generally referred to as Pantheistic Monism."
No it's not, at least not exclusively.
This is probably as close as you have come to stating your worldview. Why are you so afraid of just saying that is your position?
I am not afraid of stating my position, as I have done so repeatedly, elaborated upon request, expressed willingness to explore any or all of my views further etc etc etc (Imagine the etc's going on for several pages to make that point).
The problem is not fear greg, it is what I referred to above. Your tendency to use your idea of A World View to infect concepts where it doesn't fit. In this case, it does not apply to the 'informal' meaning of my worldview and does not lead to greater understanding on either of our parts. This is why I've encouraged you to move on from that, at least for now. I have told you, you are stuck but its more than that, this conversation, which started out pretty dynamically is completely stagnant because you are so stuck on that problem.
I know you are seeking clarity. However, your insistance on an application of A World View onto my worldview simply will not bring you the kind of closure you are looking for. Closure is what you had before you entered this discussion, and a closed mind simply wont be of benefit to you here. The peanut analogy is very applicable. It would take a jack hammer (metaphorically) for me to free the peanut from it's shell but it would only take your intention to do it on your own.
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"As I read that you are saying that you do see corruption and you do it through your own worldview. So why do you continue to deny that you have a worldview?
If you do not understand what I just explained about 'A World View' ideology vs my view of the world, then I see no point in further discussion. I've pointed that out now several times recently and it is obvious to me that genuine discussion is stuck right there in your stubborn refusal to accept simple assurances from me.
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So do you think everything is true, nothing is true, a mixture of both, What?
I am not sure what you are asking here. I think you are asking me which ideology I would claim to be the truth and which I would reject as falsehood. I suspect someone significant in your life who you trusted deeply, like a parent, handed you an ideology and told you, 'this is the truth.' Then as you matured you found truth in following the precepts of that ideology. Am I right? If so, you want it to be validated. Ok greg, Jesus loves you. I mean that with all my heart, now can we move on and speak adult to adult, rather than from behind the mask of dogma?
"So do you think everything is true, nothing is true, a mixture of both, What?
The truth is simple, it is immovable, it is what we have when there is no concealment, it is revealed.
Even an attempt to deceive, inlcuding the utterance of falsehood, reveals truth about the purveyors, even unto themselves.
To some people it is just a word that gives authority to whatever they may associate with it. It is with words, however, that we have the ability to give meaning to anything in existence. Someone once said, I forget who, 'Language is to the mind as sight is to the eye'...
My advice is to be careful with that word. Persons of title and rank use it sometimes as jargan or while engaging in code speak, to lie openly, exploit the innocent, or to commit fraudulent acts.
Truth resides on a separate plane than material experience. That is why the truth is as likely to be revealed as observed. It does not fall under the ownership of any of us, yet it is by nature self evident for those open to it. |
