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Politics : American Presidential Politics and foreign affairs

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To: TimF who wrote (39824)12/23/2009 8:27:33 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 71588
 
"If you pay people to provide something, than its not welfare."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH... G-A-S-P!!!!!!!!

Say I wanna pay someone for driving up in a Cadillac and picking up and then cashing a check? That *ain't* 'welfare'? That ain't a SUBSIDY?

Of course it is!

Now... say I wanna SUBSIDIZE some COMPANY'S PROFITS.... (Maybe the company builds automobiles, maybe they build airplanes, or maybe they sell insurance... whatever. Makes no difference.)

I want 'em to GRAB MARKET SHARE (sell more of their widgets), so I ENABLE 'em to sell for a lower price then competitors (WITHOUT HARMING THEIR PROFIT MARGINS, mind you... perhaps they even increase their profits and margins of profits because of scale!) by HANDING MONEY I COLLECTED FROM THE TAXPAYER'S TO 'EM....

On an ONGOING basis! (Not just a one shot-gift.) I HAND THEM permanently bigger markets and bigger profits by CONTINUOUSLY PUMPING TAXPAYER FUNDING TO 'EM.

Now, *of course* that a Subsidy. Of course that's corporate welfare!

Re: "Having pricing power/ monopoly / monopsony --- As long as none of those are government enforced or protected or encouraged, or supported, you can still have a free market."

Completely ridiculous!

Exercise of MONOPOLY PRICING POWER means --- by definition! --- that the market is a monopoly market, no longer a free market. Monopoly pricing power precludes the normal functioning of a free market. The market is no longer 'free', it is captive.

That is taught in every first year Econ. course in the land....
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