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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: one_less who wrote (81993)12/23/2009 9:32:19 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
"This is your 'proper' use of the term. Less formally someone can say they have a view of the world that is such and such without associating that view with one of the 'proper' applications known as 'A World View' ideology."

Of course they can. They can also hold views that align themselves with more formal World Views even if they can't or won't identify themselves with that view. Any worldview distinguishes itself by the way it answers specific questions such as "what is ultimately real?" to name but one. The paragraph I quoted:

"The quantumness of seeking is the realization that you are not seeking understanding of your self because you are already conscious of your self. You are seeking what is not your self. As you discover/reveal the truth, you realize it is indeed yourself because you can't know what is not within you to know. The knowledge that you/other (the not you) are not separate is the coming to oneness, the overcoming of ignorance, the transcendence to self-realization, and the abandonment of self imposed suffering." Message 26110688

quite clearly makes factual claims about the nature of human existence and ultimate reality. When I said <<That description of reality is generally referred to as Pantheistic Monism.>>

You replied: "No it's not, at least not exclusively."

I'm interested in what the other possibilities might be?
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"Closure is what you had before you entered this discussion, and a closed mind simply wont be of benefit to you here."

I take that to be a rather gratuitous insult on your part.

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"I suspect someone significant in your life who you trusted deeply, like a parent, handed you an ideology and told you, 'this is the truth.' Then as you matured you found truth in following the precepts of that ideology. Am I right? If so, you want it to be validated."

Besides being incredibly condescending you are entirely wrong.

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<<So do you think everything is true, nothing is true, a mixture of both, What?>>

"The truth is simple, it is immovable, it is what we have when there is no concealment, it is revealed. Even an attempt to deceive, including the utterance of falsehood, reveals truth about the purveyors, even unto themselves."

I'm sure there is an answer in there somewhere I just can't find it. Do you believe that two mutually exclusive claims can both be true?

"Truth resides on a separate plane than material experience."

Interesting statement; care to elaborate on that?
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