Interesting response, my post was for your "So make sure your choices for the Islamic "casus belli" are more than just the lame re-tread excuses about Israel." I gave you a slew of reasons, yet you chose to recite the Zionist line.
Yet, they create the circumstances for their own humiliation, don't they now? No they don't. Just look at your own reaction. Your reaction at the thought that the militants were bringing back the khalifats. Did you honestly expected the Arabs not to react at the invasion of the European Jews to Palestine? For God sakes, how many ships full of Jews did America and Britain turned around? It is easy to speak of both sides of your mouth.
Few Arab governments have wanted peace with the Israelis. Of course they wouldn't, Israel is built on stolen land. Israel is a sham and a farce. They ethnically cleansed Palestine and are trying to rewrite history.
They've only sought "truces" in an ongoing war that will last until they are strong enough to wipe out the Jewish presence in the Middle East. Wouldn't you do the same thing? Bide your time until your enemy is weak and you are strong. Why are surprised?
Egypt and Jordan are the two exceptions Do you really think they did it because they love Israel. You are naive, cut Egypt aid and see what will happen. Take a poll of the Egyptian people and see how many want to still in a peace accord with Israel.
And you think only Arabs and Muslims can feel humiliation? We were humiliated on 9/11. Then, why are you surprised at their reactions?
How many times have the American people been spit upon, despite the billions of dollars we spend in humanitarian aid and disaster support? We do our good deeds not excepting anything in return. The question should have been, when we ask our only friend in the ME to stop the illegal settlements, our friend should grant us this favor, don't you think so?
How many times since 1948 have the Israelis offered peace but received only hostility in return, either by sovereign governments, or via their proxies they permit to conduct attacks from their territory? Never, all the offers that Israel made were 1) not genuine 2) were imposible to implement.
I'll tell you this.. the Arabs bear a major amount of the blame for their status. The Arabs have moved on, it is Israel that still stuck in their old ways stealing land and killing the innocents.
They make excuse after excuse after excuse for never making peace with the Israelis. There was a Saudi proposal that Israel never want to accept.
They blame everyone, but themselves, for their humiliation and economic conditions. Who are you talking about here? Last time I checked, the Arabs were bailing our banking system out. Are you talking about the Palestinians? Man you are naive. Why don't you cut a man's legs above the knees and ask him to run a marathon. In other word why don't put the Palestinians in Auschwitz and ask them to thrive. Wait, the Israelis already done that, never mind.
And then they demand reparations, often extorted, to obtain their cooperation. Holy shit batman, what are you talking about? Have you see what the Israelis extorted from us? Yet, they would not grant us a favor.
In sum, they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I would have agreed with you, if the opportunities were genuine.
And there will be no peace until they learn to offer the same compromises they demand of their rivals and enemies. You have no clue what you are talking about. You are reciting a verse out of the Zionists book titled: "How to fool Stupid Americans" All they need is a country they can call their own. Is that much to ask?
Bottom line if Israel wanted peace, Israel would have had peace long ago. |