The goals of Saul Alinsky & Barack Obama...
re: "Alinsky's goal was "improving the living conditions of poor communities across North America."
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Message #20945 from gold10k at 2/1/2010 8:26:41 PM
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I think people need to be aware Wikipedia has been caught heavily editing, redacting, and editorializing subjects, and profiles of people connected to President Obama, as well as politically sensitive issues like climate change, and Cap & Trade.
Wikipedia caught redacting and editing Climategate info:
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Wikipedia caught editing out Obama connections to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and Bill Ayres:
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Given that Saul Alinsky is a hero and a political role model for progressive Democrats like Obama and Hillary Clinton, as well as major media figures like Chris Matthews, his current Wikipedia entry has been so heavily sanitized, that it's a farce.
If you really want to know what Saul Alinsky was all about, read his books, and study his results.
Here's the Amazon link to "Rules For Radicals," you may find the reviews especially revealing:

amazon.com
And here's a great source for excerpts from "Rules For Radicals."
crossroad.to
I think it's safe to say that "improving the living conditions of poor communities across North America," ranked rather low on his actual list of priorities.
Alinsky wasn't concerned about the poor, he was only concerned about the political power he could gain by organizing, and agitating them.

Here's what Alinsky actually said about the poor...
"My aim here is to suggest how to organize for power, how to get it and how to use it. This is not to be done with assistance to the poor, nor even by organizing the poor to demand assistance: "Even if all the low-income parts of our population were organized ... it would not be powerful enough to get significant, basic, needed changes."
Here Alinsky tells his followers that the poor have no power and the real target is the middle class...
"Organization for action will now and in the decade ahead center upon America's white middle class. That is where the power is. ... Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. They have stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois, degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized and corrupt. They are right; but we must begin from where we are if we are to build power for change, and the power and the people are in the middle class majority."
And Alinsky's hatred for the middle class didn't keep him, or his followers from using the middle class for their own purposes. And they counted on being able to impose guilt and shame upon the white middle class, to get what they wanted.

Guilt is a powerful weapon and Alinsky taught that it was the primary weapon to be used in convincing whites to give up power, and to allow Alinskyites to take over public, and private institutions. [Even win elections]
Let me introduce you to the REAL Saul Alinsky with some direct quotes from his book, "Rules For Radicals," so you can see what Alinsky and his movement is really all about...
Alinsky was an atheist, and a Neo-Marxist revolutionary who supported the fundamental tenant that organized religion, and the family, were the primary enemies of Marxism and communism, because their values obstruct the fulfillment of the communist ideal.
In the first editions of "Rules For Radicals," Alinsky included this dedication to Lucifer. Yes, Lucifer, as in Satan.

Alinsky's Dedication To Lucifer:
"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."
In the prologue to Rules For Radicals, Alinsky identifies his targets:
Prologue:
"The Revolutionary force today has two targets, moral as well as material."
Those of you with children and/or grandchildren in the public school system, remember that "morality" is one of their primary targets for change.
And they will be indoctrinating your children with their morality, not yours.
Here's some additional Alinsky quotes from the first few chapters of "Rules For Radicals."
Chapter I - Purpose: [From a Marxist Revolution to a communist paradise]

"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage, -- the political paradise of communism." p.10
"An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth -- truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing.... To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations...." pp.10-11
Chapter 2 - Of Means and Ends: [Forget moral or ethical considerations]
"The end is what you want, the means is how you get it. Whenever we think about social change, the question of means and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work. The real arena is corrupt and bloody." p.24
"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…. The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be...." pp.25-26
"The third rule of ethics, of means and ends, is that in war the end justifies almost any means...." p.29

Chapter 6 - In the Beginning: The Process of Power: [Organize, agitate, and disrupt - unions, gangs, students, illegals]
"From the moment the organizer enters a community he lives, dreams... only one thing and that is to build the mass power base of what he calls the army.

Until he has developed that mass power base, he confronts no major issues.... Until he has those means and power instruments, his 'tactics' are very different from power tactics. Therefore, every move revolves around one central point: how many recruits will this bring into the organization, whether by means of local organizations, churches, service groups, labor Unions, corner gangs, or as individuals."
"Change comes from power, and power comes from organization." p.113
"The first step in community organization is community disorganization. The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization. Present arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace by new patterns.... All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new." p.116
"The job then is getting the people to move, to act, to participate; in short, to develop and harness the necessary power to effectively conflict with the prevailing patterns and change them. When those prominent in the status quo turn and label you an 'agitator' they are completely correct, for that is, in one word, your function—to agitate to the point of conflict." p.117
Chapter 7 - Tactics [The Rules For Radicals - attack, ridicule, and polarize]
"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. ... Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves." p.126

........................"Alinsky's Rules For Radicals"
(pps.127-134):
1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."
2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication.
3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time...."
8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign."
11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside... every positive has its negative."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'... ...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target..."
"The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems, and organizations must be based on many issues."
"The organizer must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act."
"An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent."
You can find additional quotes from "Rules For Radicals" here:
crossroad.to
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Alinsky and his followers are not reformers of the system, they are the would-be destroyers of the system.
From Marx to Mao, they've all said the same thing...
Before you can reform or change a system, first you must completely destroy it.
And they will do it by organizing the poor, unions, students, and illegals.
And they will do it by playing on the guilt of the Middle Class.
And they will do it by "rubbing raw" and "fanning the flames of resentment" in those they organize.
And they will do it by overwhelming the system using the Cloward-Piven Strategy...
The goal of Cloward-Piven is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands [and debt]. The created crisis then provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.

They want to crash the system, because they know the only way America will ever accept radical socialism, is through a major crisis.
That's why Obama is willing to accept any health care bill, because his mission is to keep piling on debt, until the system crashes.
Don't pay attention to what Obama says about debt reduction, pay attention to how much debt he is continuing to add, like a tripling of his budget for the war in Afghanistan.
Fabian socialist Arnold Towneby of the Royal Institute For International Affairs (sister to the CFR) said it best...
"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands, because to impugn the sovereignty of the local nation states of the world is still a heresy for which a statesman or publicist can perhaps not quite be burned at the stake, but certainly ostracized or discredited."
And Barack H. Obama has mastered the art of "denying with his lips, what he is doing with his hands."

Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" is about mobilizing and organizing a community of destroyers, not reformers.
Because before Alinsky's "political paradise of communism" can ever be instituted in America, capitalism and democracy, must first be destroyed.
And Alinsky found the perfect vehicle for that destruction, the progressive-socialist wing of the Democratic party.
And now they have their perfect crisis.
And now they've found their perfect leader, the charismatic Neo-Marxist personality they've waited years for...

................................................................Barack Hussein Obama
SOTB
PS: Here's an outstanding article from American Thinker on Barack Obama and Saul Alinsky:
americanthinker.com
"Barack Obama and Alinsky's Rules for Psychopaths" |