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To: gold$10k who wrote (20945)2/2/2010 7:34:40 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack20 Recommendations  Read Replies (5) of 50156
 
The goals of Saul Alinsky & Barack Obama...

re: "Alinsky's goal was "improving the living conditions
of poor communities across North America."

en.wikipedia.org

Message #20945 from gold10k at 2/1/2010 8:26:41 PM

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I think people need to be aware Wikipedia has been caught
heavily editing, redacting, and editorializing subjects,
and profiles of people connected to President Obama, as
well as politically sensitive issues like climate change,
and Cap & Trade.

Wikipedia caught redacting and editing Climategate info:

climategate.com

Wikipedia caught editing out Obama connections to
Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and Bill Ayres:

scaredmonkeys.com

Given that Saul Alinsky is a hero and a political role
model for progressive Democrats like Obama and Hillary
Clinton, as well as major media figures like Chris Matthews,
his current Wikipedia entry has been so heavily sanitized,
that it's a farce.

If you really want to know what Saul Alinsky was all
about, read his books, and study his results.

Here's the Amazon link to "Rules For Radicals," you may
find the reviews especially revealing:



amazon.com

And here's a great source for excerpts from "Rules For Radicals."

crossroad.to

I think it's safe to say that "improving the living
conditions of poor communities across North America,"
ranked rather low on his actual list of priorities.

Alinsky wasn't concerned about the poor, he was only
concerned about the political power he could gain by
organizing, and agitating them.



Here's what Alinsky actually said about the poor...

"My aim here is to suggest how to organize for power,
how to get it and how to use it. This is not to be done
with assistance to the poor, nor even by organizing the
poor to demand assistance: "Even if all the low-income
parts of our population were organized ... it would not be
powerful enough to get significant, basic, needed changes."

Here Alinsky tells his followers that the poor have
no power and the real target is the middle class...

"Organization for action will now and in the decade ahead
center upon America's white middle class. That is where the
power is. ... Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the
values and the way of life of the middle class. They have
stigmatized it as materialistic, decadent, bourgeois,
degenerate, imperialistic, war-mongering, brutalized and
corrupt. They are right; but we must begin from where we are
if we are to build power for change, and the power and the
people are in the middle class majority."

And Alinsky's hatred for the middle class didn't keep him,
or his followers from using the middle class for their own
purposes. And they counted on being able to impose guilt and
shame upon the white middle class, to get what they wanted.



Guilt is a powerful weapon and Alinsky taught that it was
the primary weapon to be used in convincing whites to give
up power, and to allow Alinskyites to take over public,
and private institutions. [Even win elections]

Let me introduce you to the REAL Saul Alinsky with some
direct quotes from his book, "Rules For Radicals," so
you can see what Alinsky and his movement is really
all about...

Alinsky was an atheist, and a Neo-Marxist revolutionary who
supported the fundamental tenant that organized religion,
and the family, were the primary enemies of Marxism and
communism, because their values obstruct the fulfillment
of the communist ideal.

In the first editions of "Rules For Radicals," Alinsky
included this dedication to Lucifer. Yes, Lucifer, as
in Satan.



Alinsky's Dedication To Lucifer:

"Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment
to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology,
and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and
history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known
to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so
effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer."

In the prologue to Rules For Radicals, Alinsky identifies
his targets:

Prologue:

"The Revolutionary force today has two targets, moral as
well as material."

Those of you with children and/or grandchildren in the
public school system, remember that "morality" is one of
their primary targets for change.

And they will be indoctrinating your children with
their morality, not yours.

Here's some additional Alinsky quotes from the first
few chapters of "Rules For Radicals."

Chapter I - Purpose:
[From a Marxist Revolution to a communist paradise]



"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils
are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by
the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the
revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage
of reorganization into a new social order of the
dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage,
-- the political paradise of communism." p.10

"An organizer working in and for an open society is in an
ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed
truth -- truth to him is relative and changing; everything
to him is relative and changing.... To the extent that he
is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the
realities of the widely different situations...." pp.10-11

Chapter 2 - Of Means and Ends:
[Forget moral or ethical considerations]

"The end is what you want, the means is how you get it.
Whenever we think about social change, the question of means
and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means
and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other
problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the
possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends
only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means,
only whether they will work. The real arena is corrupt and
bloody." p.24

"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the
ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves,
should search themselves as to their real political position.
In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves….
The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means...
The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and
wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our
wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be...." pp.25-26

"The third rule of ethics, of means and ends, is that in war
the end justifies almost any means...." p.29



Chapter 6 - In the Beginning: The Process of Power:
[Organize, agitate, and disrupt - unions, gangs, students, illegals]

"From the moment the organizer enters a community he lives,
dreams... only one thing and that is to build the mass power
base of what he calls the army.



Until he has developed that mass power base, he confronts
no major issues.... Until he has those means and power
instruments, his 'tactics' are very different from power
tactics. Therefore, every move revolves around one central
point: how many recruits will this bring into the organization,
whether by means of local organizations, churches, service
groups, labor Unions, corner gangs, or as individuals."

"Change comes from power, and power comes from organization." p.113

"The first step in community organization is community
disorganization. The disruption of the present organization
is the first step toward community organization. Present
arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace
by new patterns.... All change means disorganization of the
old and organization of the new." p.116

"The job then is getting the people to move, to act, to
participate; in short, to develop and harness the necessary
power to effectively conflict with the prevailing patterns and
change them. When those prominent in the status quo turn and
label you an 'agitator' they are completely correct, for that
is, in one word, your function—to agitate to the point of
conflict." p.117

Chapter 7 - Tactics
[The Rules For Radicals - attack, ridicule, and polarize]

"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human
beings live with each other and deal with the world around
them. ... Here our concern is with the tactic of taking;
how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves." p.126



........................"Alinsky's Rules For Radicals"

(pps.127-134):

1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks
you have."

2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an
action or tactic is outside the experience of the people,
the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the
collapse of communication.

3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.
Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
(This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under
attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that
they are then forced to address.)

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can
kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules
than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost
impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the
opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can
sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time...."

8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions,
and utilize all events of the period for your purpose."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of
operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the
opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in
the reactions from the opposition that are essential for
the success of the campaign."

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will
break through into its counterside... every positive has
its negative."

12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize
it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should
be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition
must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...
...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when
there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the
target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting]
arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target
and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the
woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of
the target..."

"The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems,
and organizations must be based on many issues."

"The organizer must first rub raw the resentments of the
people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many
of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search
out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless
there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act."

"An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent."

You can find additional quotes from "Rules For Radicals" here:

crossroad.to

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Alinsky and his followers are not reformers of the system,
they are the would-be destroyers of the system.

From Marx to Mao, they've all said the same thing...

Before you can reform or change a system, first you must
completely destroy it.

And they will do it by organizing the poor, unions, students,
and illegals.

And they will do it by playing on the guilt of the Middle Class.

And they will do it by "rubbing raw" and "fanning the flames
of resentment" in those they organize.

And they will do it by overwhelming the system using the
Cloward-Piven Strategy...

The goal of Cloward-Piven is to overthrow capitalism by
overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement
demands [and debt]. The created crisis then provides the
impetus to bring about radical political change.



They want to crash the system, because they know the only
way America will ever accept radical socialism, is through
a major crisis.

That's why Obama is willing to accept any health care bill,
because his mission is to keep piling on debt, until the
system crashes.

Don't pay attention to what Obama says about debt reduction,
pay attention to how much debt he is continuing to add, like
a tripling of his budget for the war in Afghanistan.

Fabian socialist Arnold Towneby of the Royal Institute
For International Affairs (sister to the CFR) said it
best...

"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to
wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the
clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time
we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands,
because to impugn the sovereignty of the local nation states
of the world is still a heresy for which a statesman or
publicist can perhaps not quite be burned at the stake,
but certainly ostracized or discredited."

And Barack H. Obama has mastered the art of "denying with
his lips, what he is doing with his hands."



Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" is about mobilizing and
organizing a community of destroyers, not reformers.

Because before Alinsky's "political paradise of communism"
can ever be instituted in America, capitalism and democracy,
must first be destroyed.

And Alinsky found the perfect vehicle for that destruction,
the progressive-socialist wing of the Democratic party.

And now they have their perfect crisis.

And now they've found their perfect leader, the charismatic
Neo-Marxist personality they've waited years for...



................................................................Barack Hussein Obama

SOTB

PS: Here's an outstanding article from American Thinker
on Barack Obama and Saul Alinsky:

americanthinker.com

"Barack Obama and Alinsky's Rules for Psychopaths"
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