Shalom, John, et al. You guys are absolutely full of it!
You floor me. As soon as you find something that doesn't fit into YOUR definition of "Christianity", you just up and say, "That's not or they aren't Christian!" You're making fools of yourselves. Shalom you said that " Jesus never told us to Hate any one,.."
I went into a "Christian Supply & Bookstore" (the reason I put that in quotes is I am sure you will now say that wasn't a Christian Bookstore.) Anyhow, I asked for a copy of the bible and the best authoritive reference on the words/teachings of Jesus Christ. The book that was recommended was The Five Gospels. To quote the Preface, "The Five Gospels has many authors. It is the collective report of gospel scholars working closely together for six years on the common question: What did Jesus really say? The fellows of the Jesus seminar represent a wide array of Western religious traditions and academic instiutions...." They took the original Greek or whatever and gave them an up to date translation. There were 20 alone in the translation group. 74 in all in the Seminar. Their credentials read like a who's who of Christian theologians... The are from schools like Trinity University, Canadian Theological Seminary, Cambridge Univ, Ecumincal Institute for Advanced Theological Studies in Jerusalem, Vassar College, Notre Dame, Oxford, Temple Univ, S.E. Baptist Theological Semianry, Univ of Pretoria, Heidleberg, New Brunswick Theological Seminary, etc. etc. Their degrees-- just about all of them doctorates are from every theological seminary and university in the world. They were baptists, methodists, catholics, Lutherans, etc. etc.
But, you know more than they do! I'm totally amazed at the amount of wisdom on this thread.
Then tell me great scholars what DID Jesus mean when he said, (using the translation from the original Greek.) "If any come to me and do not hate their own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters--even themselves-- they cannot be my disciples." Luke 14:25
Or "Don't get the idea that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. After all, I have come to pit a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. A person's enemies are members of the same household." Matthew 10:34-36
Or, Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: they'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone." Th 16:1-4
Now I suppose you are going to tell me that he preaching love! Or, let's see what kind of spin we can put on it so that it doesn't really say that.
You guys are so full of your own grandiosment that you don't even know what your "God" had to say.
I apologise if this sounds a little rough, but you have me somewhat steamed. I entered in on this in good faith to see what your religion had to offer. All it has to offer is people like you "Shalom" or whatever your name really is... a B.Ser. You sure fit the Tammy Fay Baker mold-- hiding behind your make up and phoney as a $3 bill.
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