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Politics : Should God be replaced?

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To: Greg or e who wrote (28286)	3/11/2010 11:16:59 PM
From: Solon	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) of 28931

"I know that you THINK that circular declarations represent a huge and decisive victory over the forces of darkness" A stupid comment out of the blue. Par for the course. "I know you use the word "objective" when you really mean "subjective"." No. I use the word "objective" when I mean "objective"--just as I told you clearly in the post. You can't read?? "when you say "intelligent and knowledgeable" you really mean those "who agree with me"." What?? are you a nut?? You don't know what "intelligent" and "knowledgeable" mean?? "And yet you continue to make them" I have NEVER made an ABSOLUTE moral judgment...NOT EVER. You must think I am some kind of an omniscient god--LOL!! "You must feel like a great weight has been lifted off your shoulders." Why would setting you straight and explaining the obvious (that greg or e has no transcendent standards to make such judgments) feel similar to a weight off my shoulders?? Do you think what is (apparently) new to you was new to me?? I have known most of my life that human values are human values and that they have changed in content as we have developed the ability to walk upright and to think. "It would take an entire post just to unpack all the intentionally false misrepresentations since there is not one thing true in the entire statement." The entire statement was true and THAT is why you cannot touch it! "Values by definition are subjective." No. Values run the gamut in degrees from very subjective to very objective. But they are always less than transcendent because they are human judgments and humans are imperfect and self serving. Values can never be impartial because humans have an interest or a stake in what they choose to value. "I must have missed the "me" in that sentence when I read it. Sorry" Don't trouble yourself over your "mistakes". "YOU used the word force in response to my statement that had nothing to do with physical force" No, I guess we could reword it to read: "Denouncing and calling someone evil (as both you and Rand have done) because they do not conform to your arbitrarily derived moral construct is to use force." Excuse me, you did not mean physical force. To use "butter", then. That is what you meant, surely...to use BUTTER. I may as well just correct all your "errors" for you in advance, eh! LOL! "Note the agreement of many others that Rand has failed to justify the move from is to ought (moral obligation)" Now you slip your canoe into another stream. Well...I'm not going back several hundred posts. I recall refuting your foolishness to this same claim somewhere back there and I am sure it is still there for your consternation! "Atheists complain that no one has the right to impose their moral obligations on them but then turn around and call people evil" Atheists are individuals like all the thousands of competing religionists in the world. They have no standard complaints about anything. Some like their eggs over easy, some sunny side up, and some don't like eggs. Why this stupid talk?? If I call someone evil it is because I am expressing an opinion. You have every right to express your moral opinion just as I do. But if you try to IMPOSE your morality on me (unless you have the backing of our legal system) I will certainly retaliate. Because if you need to force your values on me it stands to reason prima facie that you are either evil or irrational because if your values were reasonable and rightful I would not need to be forced to them. "That sucking sound you hear is the sound of DAK and his bong." Don't tell me your problems.

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