<<Yes, Obamacare would create lines .... where we generally don't have them now.>>
Glad you finally admit that millions of American citizens have been ignored and when they are brought under the
wing of better health care there has to be waiting times.
Thats a dastardly lie. Obamacare will create lines and waiting times to save government funds. Its despicable of you to WANT another people's health care degraded just so you don't feel so envious. We'll get substandard health care just like the Brits and Canadians:
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Similarly, nearly one in four British oncologists admitted to deliberately withholding information from their patients about treatments widely available in other European countries, but not allowed under the NHS system due to cost. These oncologists argued that “there was ‘no point’ in discussing treatments their patients could not have” and that such a discussions might “distress, upset or confuse” their patients.
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Government-run medicine thus pitted doctors against their patients in an ethically perverse situation. Physicians, prohibited by the government from doing what they actually thought was best for their patients, had to decide whether they should conceal medically important information from their patients. Patients were placed in a position of not knowing if their doctors were being fully truthful with them. The result was rationing not only of medical care, but of medical information.
Canadian doctors have been placed in a similar ethical bind due to government control of scarce hospital beds and operating-room time through its infamous system of “waiting lists.”
One Canadian doctor told documentary filmmaker Stuart Browning that if a surgeon was too persistent in requesting operating-room time for his patients, he could be disciplined as a “disruptive doctor” and have his already limited operating-room time reduced even further. In other words, the surgeon would be forced to choose between upholding his Hippocratic Oath to his patient and maintaining his capacity to practice medicine.
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<<No, govt will create waiting times cause its what they do .... >>
Here you go contradicting yourself again, waiting time is a result of taking care of the whole population of a country...impossible to have hospitals on every street corner whether in America or in that commie pinko socialist county north of the border.
No, months long waiting lists for routine procedures, that Canadians face, isn't necessary.
<<The fact that Obamacare advocates WANT to degrade American health care is becoming more and more obvious.>>
Mr Obama does not want to degrade your health care
He most certainly DOES want to degrade our health care. So do you and you ought to be ashamed of it.
just make it more inclusive ..and get rid of tremendous pain of personal bankruptcy and abuse and start to include the ignored.
Its already inclusive. The medical bankruptcies are largely a myth.
<<<Thats not true. My boss was living in Calgary not that long ago and was on the same waiting list for an MRI over his back problem that Canadians face.>>
Your boss was living in Calgary thats living in Calgary different than traveling to Canada for health care as Danny williams traveled to America for health care...if your boss was living in America and tried to get in a Canadian line from there ...it might be difficult.
Who cares .... the point is he came back to the states rather than continue to suffer while on a list.
""What this thread constantly ignores are the constant stream of success stories swinging out the doors of Canadian, Swiss,British, Taiwan hospitals 24/7
You mean, we should be awestruck they sometimes do something worthwhile?
,with no threat of bankruptcy if calamity strikes,
Myth.
no worries about being denied coverage
Medicare and Medicaid, our present government health care, has higher reject rates than private companies. So that was another lie you just told.
,no worries about people weaseling out and riding on the backs of others
No, everyone does that. You even bragged about weaseling out and riding on the Canadian public's back by retiring very early.
Actually your whole country rides on America's back .... we're your backup when emergency strikes.
..no negotiating costs with doctors and hospitals, showing tax returns ass kissing
You don't have the ability to bargain. |
